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Does just fine in my TA..fancy labels and bottles is smoke and mirrors to me..Click image for larger version

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Does just fine in my TA..fancy labels and bottles is smoke and mirrors to me..Attachment 188876

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I'm certain that is the wrong spec for the TA. Your photo shows a C3 10w 40 that is for the 1.2 Fire engine which specifies a low saps oil. The TA is a C2 I believe. Plus it should be 0w 30.
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Hi trev its 5w40 full syn c3 ..works fine..
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Yes trev..but some are differant mines on a 61 plate so runs the older spec oil.. this type of thread has been for ever now...
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Re: Where to buy TA oil from

You are right Phil.
Only the lower NA TA specifies a C2 oil. 5W-40 should be OK but it was changed to 0w-30 I believe on later engines.
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A pic from hand book..Click image for larger version

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A pic from hand book..Attachment 188881
Not all TA's will have this specification of oil; it was changed on later models and, one would hope, so was the handbook.

NEVER rely on information contained in a handbook for someone else's car. Use the information that's contained in your own handbook. Manufacturers can, and do, change specifications at any time during a car's production run, and the handbook for your specific car should reflect this.
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Not always.
We bought a brandnew 2016 Euro 6 Alfa Giulietta MultiAir two years ago, came with the wrong Euro 5 handbook...

Anyway, with the MultiAir engines the Euro 5 ( until about 2014) use 5W40 C3 oil, the Euro 6 versions after 2014 use 0W30 C2 oil.
I assume it's the same for the TwinAir engines.
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Page 222 on my 2014 dated handbook.

And a contradiction in the Euro 6 supplement
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Would it be wrong to use 0W30 in an older '12 TA?

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0w 30 was in my TA 4x4 from 10k miles if not before. Very quiet, zero usage and no issues with any funny noises. Worth paying extra even for early cars.
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Would it be wrong to use 0W30 in an older '12 TA?

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In almost all cases I would say yes.
I changed viscosities, quality, and so on, on lots of cars and bikes without problems at all.
But with the MultiAir and TwinAir units I wouldn't risk anything.
The function of those units depends heavily on oil ( viscosity and quality).
A lot of those units have failed due to wrong oil, so I would stick to the handbook ....!!
I'm a Castrol guy all my life, but since we own an Euro 6 Alfa Giulietta with the 1,4 MultiAir Fiat engine, I use Petronas ( or Selenia...) cause Castol doesn't make a 0W30 C2 synthetic, infortunatley..
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In almost all cases I would say no.
I changed viscosities, quality, and so on, on lots of cars and bikes without problems at all.
But with the MultiAir and TwinAir units I wouldn't risk anything.
The function of those units depends heavily on oil ( viscosity and quality).
A lot of those units have failed due to wrong oil, so I would stick to the handbook ....!!
I'm a Castrol guy all my life, but since we own an Euro 6 Alfa Giulietta with the 1,4 MultiAir Fiat engine, I use Petronas ( or Selenia...) cause Castol doesn't make a 0W30 C2 synthetic, infortunatley..
Surely if there are no changes to the construction and tolerances in the engine and the manufacturers change the spec of the oil then there won't be an issue in the older engines. I'm sure Fiat service use the new spec in older TA engines, I've read it on here before.
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Surely if there are no changes to the construction and tolerances in the engine
Do we know that? I've yet to see any authoritative statement on that subject, either way.
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I'm sure Fiat service use the new spec in older TA engines, I've read it on here before.
It's the other way around, many of them use the old specs oil in the new engines....!!
They have plenty of the old specs oil in store, and not that many new Euro 6 engines around, it's not economical to have the new specs oil in bulk, I'm afraid...
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