General Panda City Cross

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General Panda City Cross

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Don’t give me a hard time over this but I have a Panda City Cross on factory order.



OK it’s not a “real” Cross and not a 4x4 but it will do much the same job at a lot less money. My Panda 4x4 TwinAir is 3 years old in May and I love every minute of driving it, the ride, engine, and ride height but needs must.



I think I got a good deal with Part Ex and the price of the City Cross and I am opting for the Ambient White, Style pack, winter pack, dark rears windows and space saver.
 
The City Cross is nicer inside in my opinion, except for the grey dash which feels like sandpaper! Mine was red, realised afterwards that white is definitely the best colour. Still seems to be a very rare car, I don't think I've seen another one on the road yet, although with the style pack it's probably hard to see the difference really. I believe it has exactly the same wheels, tyres and ground clearance as the Cross, so goes almost anywhere the Cross can go without all the extra cost and weight, and of course you have the bullet proof 1.2 engine as well :) Enjoy.......
 

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I hope you have better luck with the buying experience than I'm having at the moment.

Due to my local and trusted dealer not selling the Abarth range (since I've found out they've now moved and now do!).

I went elsewhere and the whole process has turned into a nightmare, so much so I've now paid for and own a brand new Abarth 595 Tursimo that's sat on a dealer forecourt that they won't release to me!

It all started ok, test drove the whole range, car in stock the model and colour I wanted, deal worked out with discount and a good trade in and a two to three week wait.

Then they screwed the paperwork up, they kept asking me to sign and resign the same order form, all with different figures on.

Turned out they'd somehow "lost" a thousand pounds in the deal, their figures appeared to short sell it, good for me but not for them.

After a week of messing about emailing me forms I'd already signed they agreed to the original set of figures I'd signed at the beginning, bonus, I'm a grand better off, but alarm bells started to ring then, I thought aren't these people professionals? Isn't this what they do everyday?

Car arrived at the dealers and seemed to just sit there.
They couldn't PDI it without registering it and it's their admin that do that and they are on a course.

I needed to sign some papers, but their managers are on a course.

When they returned I was asked to come in and sign them, so I turned up only to be asked if I'd brought with me X, Y & Z, which I hadn't as no one asked me to bring them!

Got them signed and was led to believe I could pick it up the next day, well that's what I thought "see you tomorrow, don't forget to bring all the keys and paperwork for your trade in" meant.

Turned out it doesn't mean what I thought it meant, it meant will contact you tomorrow and pull your chain a bit more!
It needed taxing but their admin staff are on a course (what again?).

I thought this sounded funny, don't they register and tax it at the same time?
I did when I bought a new, unregistered competition bike the other year.

Then I was told the DVLA system "went down" and no one can tax a new car!

The latest excuse I've had was that the "file" hasn't come back from the admin team (they must have finished their course, yippy!) and they can't release the car without the file.

Turns out the dealers admin team aren't at the Abarth/Fiat showroom address, but 200 yards down the road at their Nissan dealership.

Turns out no one knows or can predict when this file might make it's lengthy trip to where it needs to be for them to release the car, not even the dealer principal, so I'm sat waiting.

Another gripe, I asked one thing about the prep of the car, I didn't want dealer stickers attached to the bodywork.

I don't mind the one in the rear window, but I do not want a badge with the dealer name glued on the boot lid.

A simple request, it's not like it comes with it on and they have to remove it.

I saw the prepped car on Wednesday afternoon while I was stood there wondering if I'd ever get to drive it and digesting their latest bullsh*t.

Not only have they stuck a feckin' sticker on the boot lid, they've stuck it on p*ssed.

It looks that bad, I reckon if you poked my eyes out with a red hot fork, span me around 500 times and asked me to stick it on with my left foot, I would have done a better job!

I can't wait until they do that introduction with the service manager (if he's there and not on a bloody course).
I'll ask him if he really expects my to trust them with service and repairs if they can't stick a friggin' sticker, that I didn't want on straight!
 
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blimey that's bad but maybe you actually got a good deal, best thing now I guess is to bring it to a different Abarth dealer for servicing or warranty work and never go near them again. I did the same, I bought my 500 from a large main dealer only because that's where I got the best deal but I wouldent dream of using them for servicing, I've got all work from day one done by a small Alfa/Fiat specialist that I know well and get very well looked after.
 
The City Cross is nicer inside in my opinion, except for the grey dash which feels like sandpaper! Mine was red, realised afterwards that white is definitely the best colour. Still seems to be a very rare car, I don't think I've seen another one on the road yet, although with the style pack it's probably hard to see the difference really. I believe it has exactly the same wheels, tyres and ground clearance as the Cross, so goes almost anywhere the Cross can go without all the extra cost and weight, and of course you have the bullet proof 1.2 engine as well :) Enjoy.......

Thanks for those words of ecouragement. No, I've not seen one on the road yet, and only one or two "real" Cross. Your red looks fine, same or similar to me existing 4x4.
 
I hope you have better luck with the buying experience than I'm having at the moment.

Due to my local and trusted dealer not selling the Abarth range (since I've found out they've now moved and now do!).

I went elsewhere and the whole process has turned into a nightmare, so much so I've now paid for and own a brand new Abarth 595 Tursimo that's sat on a dealer forecourt that they won't release to me!

It all started ok, test drove the whole range, car in stock the model and colour I wanted, deal worked out with discount and a good trade in and a two to three week wait.

Then they screwed the paperwork up, they kept asking me to sign and resign the same order form, all with different figures on.

Turned out they'd somehow "lost" a thousand pounds in the deal, their figures appeared to short sell it, good for me but not for them.

After a week of messing about emailing me forms I'd already signed they agreed to the original set of figures I'd signed at the beginning, bonus, I'm a grand better off, but alarm bells started to ring then, I thought aren't these people professionals? Isn't this what they do everyday?

Car arrived at the dealers and seemed to just sit there.
They couldn't PDI it without registering it and it's their admin that do that and they are on a course.

I needed to sign some papers, but their managers are on a course.

When they returned I was asked to come in and sign them, so I turned up only to be asked if I'd brought with me X, Y & Z, which I hadn't as no one asked me to bring them!

Got them signed and was led to believe I could pick it up the next day, well that's what I thought "see you tomorrow, don't forget to bring all the keys and paperwork for your trade in" meant.

Turned out it doesn't mean what I thought it meant, it meant will contact you tomorrow and pull your chain a bit more!
It needed taxing but their admin staff are on a course (what again?).

I thought this sounded funny, don't they register and tax it at the same time?
I did when I bought a new, unregistered competition bike the other year.

Then I was told the DVLA system "went down" and no one can tax a new car!

The latest excuse I've had was that the "file" hasn't come back from the admin team (they must have finished their course, yippy!) and they can't release the car without the file.

Turns out the dealers admin team aren't at the Abarth/Fiat showroom address, but 200 yards down the road at their Nissan dealership.

Turns out no one knows or can predict when this file might make it's lengthy trip to where it needs to be for them to release the car, not even the dealer principal, so I'm sat waiting.

Another gripe, I asked one thing about the prep of the car, I didn't want dealer stickers attached to the bodywork.

I don't mind the one in the rear window, but I do not want a badge with the dealer name glued on the boot lid.

A simple request, it's not like it comes with it on and they have to remove it.

I saw the prepped car on Wednesday afternoon while I was stood there wondering if I'd ever get to drive it and digesting their latest bullsh*t.

Not only have they stuck a feckin' sticker on the boot lid, they've stuck it on p*ssed.

It looks that bad, I reckon if you poked my eyes out with a red hot fork, span me around 500 times and asked me to stick it on with my left foot, I would have done a better job!

I can't wait until they do that introduction with the service manager (if he's there and not on a bloody course).
I'll ask him if he really expects my to trust them with service and repairs if they can't stick a friggin' sticker, that I didn't want on straight!

That's a real tale of woe. Hope it truns out OK for you soon.

Your story is why I avoid dealing directly with dealers or visiting their showrooms. I'm buying thought The Internet and so far no hassle except the 10-12 weeks waiting time.
 
Your story is why I avoid dealing directly with dealers or visiting their showrooms.

My objective when buying a new car is to give the supplying dealer as little opportunity as possible to mess with it.

The last one I bought, I asked for it to be handed over as it came off the transporter, with the number plates supplied separately.

When I went to collect, they'd screwed the 'plates on and bent the inner sill seam during the PDI.

The salesperson looked at it, looked at me and went to the compound to get a different car. Fortunately they had several in stock.

Drove it home on trade plates, detailed it properly and stuck the numberplates on.
 
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Hi.
If I had the money I'd definitely go for the City Cross.
Anytime you are near Kilmarnock please drop in for a cuppa and show me your new car.
Enjoy and take care.


I'm a long way from Kilmarnock but I will certainly post a picture in 10-12 weeks.
 
I've had my City Cross for nearly 3 months and love it. Got the style pack, etc. My first Panda and I find it a bit choppy to drive on country roads but with the ESC it's fun to 4 wheel drift round roundabouts.
Just don't try to get a tow bar, (see separate thread) - I have small caravan on order and can't find anyone that can supply a tow bar that they say will fit a City Cross.
One tip I got from a Fiat tuning shop was, once run in a bit, thrash it for the first 1500 miles and it will "unlock" the ECU and will result in a much livelier car. Just completed 2000 miles and it seems to have worked, (as well as being an opportunity to pass Range Rovers etc!).
 
I've had my City Cross for nearly 3 months and love it. Got the style pack, etc. My first Panda and I find it a bit choppy to drive on country roads but with the ESC it's fun to 4 wheel drift round roundabouts.
Just don't try to get a tow bar, (see separate thread) - I have small caravan on order and can't find anyone that can supply a tow bar that they say will fit a City Cross.
One tip I got from a Fiat tuning shop was, once run in a bit, thrash it for the first 1500 miles and it will "unlock" the ECU and will result in a much livelier car. Just completed 2000 miles and it seems to have worked, (as well as being an opportunity to pass Range Rovers etc!).

That's interesting as I had some trouble with the dealer trying to factory order with the extras I requested. Style pack, winter pack, tinted rears and space saver. Seems there are a few alterations already - no chrome on exhaust, and slight mods to rear suspension.

Good luck with that towbar.
 
Thanks for the good luck wishes. I gave up with the Fiat dealer on spec'ing the car and used the Fiat Configuration myself to give him a list of what I wanted - even then the Fiat order for has a different set of groupings to the Configuration!
 
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