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Re: Twinair valve actuator oil filter

OK, I guess the washer AND the brown o-ring will seal the filter on a TwinAir...
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Re: Twinair valve actuator oil filter

Awesome work Mr Goudrons - top of the class for you Sir! I can entirely believe that if this filter gets progressively blocked then the operation of the TA unit might be impacted. And I wager that that Fiat Service don't know much, if anything, about this and if diagnostics say the TA unit is fubar, then they just say it needs changed.

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Re: Twinair valve actuator oil filter

Fantastic thread!!

Looks like a job for me too on the Punto TA.

I searched on the twinair after reading a post by Peter Pickup about the Multiair filters vhttps://www.fiatforum.com/punto-evo/457269-life-span-1-4-multiair-turbo.html?457269=#post4320281

Has the twinair also got a strainer inline with the turbo oil feed?
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Re: Twinair valve actuator oil filter

Thanks for the guide @Goudrons. Mechanic has used this morning checking mine. Seemed fine. Regular oil changes obviously way to go, done just under 32k.
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Re: Twinair valve actuator oil filter

I think Iíll give this a go over the weekend - almost at 90000 miles so Iíll see what sort of mess itís in.
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Re: Twinair valve actuator oil filter

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I think Iíll give this a go over the weekend - almost at 90000 miles so Iíll see what sort of mess itís in.
Please report back your findings Iain, as I cleaned mine at 34,000 and it was almost completely clear (which is a good sign I guess).
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Re: Twinair valve actuator oil filter

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Please report back your findings Iain, as I cleaned mine at 34,000 and it was almost completely clear (which is a good sign I guess).

I attempted it at the weekend but my 15mm thin-wall socket isn't thin enough so I'm waiting on a new one arriving.



Mine doesn't have the plastic 1/4 turn thingamy as the cover though, it's got a 10mm hex socket plug which was on quite tight. No sign of threadlock and only one thin o-ring as the seal.
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Re: Twinair valve actuator oil filter

I bought a set of Draper box spanners including a 15mm when I changed mine.
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Re: Twinair valve actuator oil filter

Mine's the solid Hex socket plug the same as Ian's above.

No amount of 15mm thin walled sockets would fit through the threaded hole, waiting for a set of box spanners off Ebay to arrive!
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Re: Twinair valve actuator oil filter

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Mine's the solid Hex socket plug the same as Ian's above.

No amount of 15mm thin walled sockets would fit through the threaded hole, waiting for a set of box spanners off Ebay to arrive!
That might explain why the cover and access hole was changed.
Mine was a 2014 and appeared to have a hard plastic cover and cap, though I did see images of earlier cars with alloy ones.

I don't own a TA anymore, but would be interested to see any pics of higher mileage cars filters (like Iain's at 90k), though I still think regular oil changes with the correct grade and amount (not helped by the awful dipstick) are vital for these engines.
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Finally got around to cleaning it, the box spanner tip was a good shout.

This is on oil thatís done 13000 miles, I thought Iíd look at it on old oil just out of interest in case changing it flushed out any gunk. This is the longest itís ever gone without an oil change, usually i change it after 10000 using 5w40 as itís a 2012.

No horrors - no lumps, no gunk, just oil. Not bad for 90000 having seen the state of some of the Multiair strainers after 50000. Before and after blasting with carb cleaner shots below.
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Re: Twinair valve actuator oil filter

I'd have said people using incorrect spec oil is what causes more issues that nor not changing the oil when its due
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Re: Twinair valve actuator oil filter

I think that despite my filter being clean and the regular oil changes, the big actuator replacement bill is impending.



Misfiring on cylinder 1 this morning, coughing, spluttering, rough idle. Changed the coils and plugs, still misfiring on the same cylinder. The plugs are only 2 days old so there's a chance one is faulty or gapped incorrectly but even swapping them to the other cylinder brought up the same fault on cylinder 1.


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Re: Twinair valve actuator oil filter

Do bear in mind that a new Uniair module will last the rest of the engine's life. Nothing stopping you having cause confirmed and buying part and have someone else fit. Sure you could get a 3 year old engine but one I found only done 5k miles. Yours will have a lot less wear. I spent over £7k in 5.5 years maintaining 2 Vauxhalls and a Renault, and only had one unreliable Fiat out of 9 so far, so am pretty happy. Though all 5 Pandas had this shape fairly new.
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Re: Twinair valve actuator oil filter

Itís behaved itself over the past few hundred miles so Iím just going to wait and see. Im swapping one thing over at a time to the other cylinder when the fault appears in hope that I can narrow it down to something other than the actuators.

Even if I change it myself Iím looking at close to £500 by the time I factor in gaskets and oil, thatís a lot to spend on a panda approaching 100000 miles when it also needs a new exhaust too - thatíll be at least another £250. Iíll decide if/when it gets worse.
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