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Re: Twinair K and N filter.

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My point to fit this filter is to save money!! Not for power gains. To buy one filter and change it many years down the line..
You insurance will cost more, that won't save you money.
Most opinions are that it doesn't really save very much once you factor in the special cleaner and oil that you have to pay for on top. Plus I know it doesn't cost anything but you have to store the cleaner and oil for when you next need it.
Think about how long you may have car for . if you change cars before you have saved any money it has cost you more.

How many miles is change interval for standard filter?
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Re: Twinair K and N filter.

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My point to fit this filter is to save money!! Not for power gains. To buy one filter and change it many years down the line..
Hi Phil.
Will you save money if oil contaminates a sensor? Don't forget Lambda sensors and the Cat don't like oil as well.
Paper filters are very good indeed at the job they do in filtering microscopic particles, Oiled filters and even the old oil bath filters are never as good, one reason paper filters are just about universal, plus any restriction in paper filters are part of the mathematics that the ECU program is written for.
Stick with your OE filter, you don't need to replace it annually unless you live in a dusty area, with all the rain we get, filters have an easy time in the UK. You can of course blow it out every few months with an air line.
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My point to fit this filter is to save money!! Not for power gains. To buy one filter and change it many years down the line..
Those oiled filters have not the best filtering you want, because of the very open structure, thats why oil is used to improve filtering.
In due time that oil disappear into your engine where it does more harm then good, and filtering get worse and worse by the time.
Then you clean it and put oil on them again, and it starts all over again.

You may be thinking you save money with them but you don't.
You need the filter, the oil, the cleaning product, to keep them filtering somewhat.
In the worse case scenario you will get all kind of other costs because of them.
Replacing a MAF or MAP sensor is more expensive then what you think, you save with those oiled filters.
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Ok so i know nothing about air filters..So why do they sell them??.
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Ok so i know nothing about air filters..So why do they sell them??.
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Ok so i know nothing about air filters..So why do they sell them??.
Hi Phil.
Don't think you are alone regarding filters.
K&N filters have their uses but also have their downside. They are great for extracting a few horses on high revving, tuned engines. They perform well on older carburettor engines and engines that don't conform to current emission regulations.

The downsides though can lead to expense. They don't filter as effectively as good quality paper filter can do, the addition of oil on a modern engine with it's various sensors can cause havoc, they also require more maintenance and their effectiveness at filtration drops as the oil gets sucked into the engine.
Fuel consumption and power wont improve as the ECU via the various sensors will compensate for any small increase of air.

At the end of the day though it's your choice Phil
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