I'm posting this to continue the thread entitled 'Fuel filler flap - Plastic or metal?' because the topic moved on and should really have it's own thread. The original, for reference, is here: https://www.fiatforum.com/panda-iii/446145-fuel-filler-flap-plastic-metal.html

Right believe it or not, I'm sat sitting here holding one gen-u-wine made in Italy, Fiat part 403/C, Sweet Dreams Turquoise touch up stick. On holding it up to the car, it is very clearly the Turquoise and the correct colour, not deep blue. So, contrary to rumour put about by some dealers, they do actually exist. That said, there's no guarantee you will be able to get one. I say that because mine was not ordered in by the dealer concerned, they just happened to have (at least) one hanging around in their parts archive. You see, even on my dealer's parts computer they were not able to find this part, they kept getting the blue that people report here. In fact, from what I have read elsewhere the colour 403 is indeed a deep blue whereas the 403/C is the Turquoise. I don't think they can order this stuff anymore, certainly Fiat no longer produce cars in this colour. Furthermore, I note the date of production on my stick is 13/02/2012 which leads me to believe Fiat knocked out a batch of Turquoise sticks when they produced these cars and that was it, no more were produced. I may be wrong, but that would explain the difficulty in even getting anyone to admit to its existence.

The really annoying and unnecessary Fiat manoeuvre here, though, has been to apparently wipe the reference from their colour database so that even third parties can't get the formula to mix up a batch. This is unusual, and I suspect a mistake, so if anyone has a contact and knows a way to get Fiat to sort this mess out (perhaps you work at a dealership?) please do. I dread the day I ask someone to repair some damage and they spray it deep blue!

Your options, then, are to:

1) Go to a seller who has the kit to actually analyse the paint on your car (rather than doing a computer look-up) and mix up a batch.

2) Go to one of the few retailers online who have this stuff on file (probably from analysing some at some point) such as the reportedly decent: http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/710-5...-repair-brush-%2F290813061985%23ht_1171wt_904

3) Find a dealer with some (very) old stock of the original run of genuine Fiat Sweet Dreams Turquoise (Turchese Sognante, 403/C) touch up. I can't promise they'll have any more left in the stock room, but you can try my dealer :worship: who is SGM Fiat in Southampton. It cost me £20.89 including VAT. They do claim 'Massive parts stock on site and overnight delivery for that unusual out of stock item' and I can't fault them there, but don't expect them to be able to order any more Turquoise in (though you can always ask and see what happens): http://www.sgmfiat.co.uk/servicing-parts.htm

Good Luck, and if you work at a dealership and are reading this, please contact your man at Fiat and get him to add the formula for 403/C back on their published colour reference so that third parties, and even their own Fiat body shops, have at fighting chance of mixing this stuff up. Once small clerical error made in the past, but no-one has ever got around to correcting it and it is a problem for your customers.

I really hate Fiat because of their failure to supply paint even for new cars.
I must however remember Perodua don't even sell paint at all! I struck lucky on that one, picking out a Daihatsu black which proved to be identical. Someone somewhere should organise a thunderbolt to strike down all the perpetrators of the 'you cant have touch up paint' brigade!

Have you tried halfords touch up paint mixing service?

Would that be this colour?

What a great colour

Agreed, that is a fantastic colour!

murphyv310 said:

Would that be this colour?

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This one is Venetian Blue (I think that's what it's called!). It's a metallic paint, whereas Sweet Dreams Turquoise is a pastel colour.

Fair play to AndyCalling for managing to get a touch-up stick though! So it looks like there are some limited stocks available, but they weren't kept in production for very long it seems.

Yep, and I've tried it (the official Turquoise touchup stick) on the couple of spots that needed doing (2nd hand car and all) and it's an excellent match so far. Not tried the lacquer quite yet as no sooner had the paint dried, it started spitting with rain and hasn't stopped since. Tomorrow morning will be lacquer before work.


As SU states, that is not Turquoise which is indeed pastel and not metallic. The colour SHOULD be indicated under the bonnet (in Italian) together with the code (though at least one person on here has reported having the wrong colour plate on their car).

Dont try halfords 403/c is dark blue on all paint mixers luckily didnt have to pay for it. Got some mixed now after months of trying to get it. Ketts paints who had hundreds of fiat paint cards/colours didnt have this one either. And 403c is dark blue on their mix.
It appears its an old ford colour which matches

Yep. That'll be what you commonly (though not quite universally) will find. Problem is there's no chance of convincing Fiat to fix this as it'll be an old mistake and they haven't bothered so far. I'm really hoping a dealer with a good contact at Fiat reads this and is feeling helpful because that's probably the best chance we have of getting someone to tweak the colour database they distribute.

murphyv310 said:

Would that be this colour?

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Woah, Murph, a Panda with a number plate that spells 'SUX'? What have you done? Contact the DVLA immediately and beg them to relent.

Got a definite answer finally on the turquoise paint not from fiat i might add..
My car is
854 AZURRO METALLIC

Good that you have the info. I guess you can now just get that paint mixed anywhere. Shame the pastel Sweet Dreams Turquoise got missed off the database.

This is what i have.

Yep, that's the stuff alright. Same as I got. Of the standard range Panda 2012 colours sold in my Panda's year that Sweet Dreams Turquoise, I think, shares the best colour crown with the metallic flake purple (or Infatuation Purple as Fiat would have it).

That metallic Azurro shown above is a really lovely colour though. I'm not so partial to full metallic, but that one could turn my head I think. Must have been a later addition to the colour options.

I have come across Chipex.

http://www.chipex.co.uk/touch-up-paint/fiat/models/panda/

Its £30 for a paint kit but you get a lot more than with the Fiat touch up sticks. I have no alternative at the moment as Fiat won't provide paint for the 2017 cars. I suppose they want any chips to ruin the cars in anticipation we would be soft enough to go and buy another one...... They claim to be able to supply any colour. I will soon find out if they are right.

Looks like no-one else has tried them yet, though they have been mentioned as a possibility earlier in the discussion. Please do report back with the results.

The Pretender said:

This is what i have.

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Not needing it anymore soon.