Technical Wheel/tire sizes Fiat Panda. (typ 312/319)

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Technical Wheel/tire sizes Fiat Panda. (typ 312/319)

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I start this thread for general information purpose.
Like many maybe know, i play around with a lot of wheels and tire sizes for the last 14 months under my Panda.
And today that playing around ends by knowing what fits and what not. :D
So, what do fit 100% without problems:

175/65R14" on 5.5Jx14" offset/ET35.
185/55R15" on 6.0Jx15" offset/ET35.
195/45R16" on 6.5Jx16" offset/ET35.

These tire sizes wil work even with Offset/ET numbers "max 5 down" and "max 3 up".

So what does not fit, most i tested fit but with rubbing signs, a lot on left rear, less on right rear.
Although you not hearing the rubbing (rubber on plastic) the tracks are there to witness.

So what does fit but rubs:

225/40R16" on 7.0Jx16" offset/ET31.
215/40R16" on 7.0Jx16" offset/ET31.
205/50R15" on 6.5Jx15" offset/ET32.

So back on what i have.

Winter wheels: 6.5Jx15" offset/ET32 with 205/50R15" tires, they show signs of rubbing.
Solution for 100% free rubbing, 185/55R15" tires.

Summer wheels: 7.0Jx16" offset/ET31 with 215-225/40R16" tires, they show bigger signs of rubbing.
Solution for 100% free rubbing, 205/45R16" tires.

Cheers, :D
 

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I'm thinking of putting 195/50 (on 6J rims with 35 offset) on mine. Does anyone know if this works?

Thanks.
 
Hi,
You say:-
These tire sizes wil work even with Offset/ET numbers "max 5 down" and "max 3 up".

Can understand the max up 3 as this will decrease rear clearance, but I would appear to be well under arches with stock wheels so was going to come down 10-15mm.


Know will be some other effects to steering.


Regards
 
Hi,
You say:-
These tire sizes wil work even with Offset/ET numbers "max 5 down" and "max 3 up".

Can understand the max up 3 as this will decrease rear clearance, but I would appear to be well under arches with stock wheels so was going to come down 10-15mm.


Know will be some other effects to steering.


Regards

Yes meaning, 5 down is ET30 and 3 up ET38. :D
 
195 on 6J could be tricky on the inside.


According to an online wheel/tyre calculator, this combination will be 6.4mm wider (each side) than the current set-up. Where would you expect interference, front or rear? I chose the 35 offset as it's still standard and didn't think going up one size of tyre over the size fitted to the original (optional) alloys would cause a problem. What offset would you recommend for this tyre?

Thanks, Wool.
 
According to an online wheel/tyre calculator, this combination will be 6.4mm wider (each side) than the current set-up. Where would you expect interference, front or rear? I chose the 35 offset as it's still standard and didn't think going up one size of tyre over the size fitted to the original (optional) alloys would cause a problem. What offset would you recommend for this tyre?

Thanks, Wool.

It could be tricky at the left rear, for some reason there is less space then right rear.
A 195 tire sits wide on a 6J wheel, so the edge of the tire tread/wall could rub on the inside plastic when there is extensive suspension travel. (see my pictures)
At the front there is space enough for up to 225/40R16" tires on a 7jx16" ET31 wheel. :D
If necessary you could instal spacers for reducing the offset.
 
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It could be tricky at the left rear, for some reason there is less space then right rear.
A 195 tire sits wide on a 6J wheel, so the edge of the tire tread/wall could rub on the inside plastic when there is extensive suspension travel. (see my pictures)
At the front there is space enough for up to 225/40R16" tires on a 7jx16" ET31 wheel. :D
If necessary you could instal spacers for reducing the offset.

Thanks for the very useful information. I hadn't considered that problem would be at the rear! As I rarely carry passengers in the rear, nor carry heavy loads, i think I shall give them a try. I'm going for the 195 on a 6J to give some protection to the rims from kerb damage, as found the 185 on the optional alloys VERY vunerable. As you said, if necessary I can fit spacers, as they wouldn't have to be very thick to restore the clearance.

Thanks again, Wool.
 
which is the correct pressure ??

1-2 person :

2.2 bar front
2.0 bar back

3-5 person :

2.5 bar front
2.5 bar back
 
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