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Old 09-07-2016   #1
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Premature wear of faux leather seat.

Fiat Panda 4x4 - just over 1 year old and low mileage.

Thd faux leather bolster part of the drivers seat has the usual creases which is fine.

But now the faux leather is tearing along the creases !

Anybody else had this ? Was it covered under warranty ?
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Re: Premature wear of faux leather seat.

I've done 38k miles in 3 years in my 4x4 TA, including sitting in the Italian sun for a fair bit of its life and there's no sign of this happening (crosses fingers).
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Re: Premature wear of faux leather seat.

No sign on my TA 4x4 one which is now over 3 years with 23000 miles and used almost daily.
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Re: Premature wear of faux leather seat.

Just looked at mine (18 months / 12k miles old). It's got some creases like yours but no cracks. M
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Re: Premature wear of faux leather seat.

Mine, 35000 miles/2.5 years old, has identical spiting. I had assumed it was something I'd done, maybe a coat buckle or similar - but now having seen yours I wonder if it has just 'failed'. Maybe I should ask the dealer about it

Note that once it does split like this you can then see that there's no leather there at all! Its PVC on a cotton or polyester backing...
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Mine, 35000 miles/2.5 years old, has identical spiting. I had assumed it was something I'd done, maybe a coat buckle or similar - but now having seen yours I wonder if it has just 'failed'. Maybe I should ask the dealer about it

Note that once it does split like this you can then see that there's no leather there at all! Its PVC on a cotton or polyester backing...
Let me know how it goes with dealer ? My service is coming up in Nov.

Funnily enough I noticed the "faux" leather when buying but was assured it was more durable than real leather :-(
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Re: Premature wear of faux leather seat.

I suppose this is tangentially related, but anyone have any recommendations on seat covers and supports? My side bolster is also showing some wear (and even staining from clothing that won't come out) so I've been hunting left and right for something that will do the following:

Provide additional support, specifically in the lumbar and thigh regions as the ironing board flatness of the Panda seats is getting tiresome.

Actually cover the vinyl areas to prevent excessive wear.
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Re: Premature wear of faux leather seat.

Well, it is now worse !!

That long crease to the right of the split - is now a long split !!

Creases I dont mind - it is wear and tear - its splitting under 2 years with low mileage and an average weight driver that is annoying me.

I have contacted my dealer to see if it will be covered by warranty as I approach the 2yr service in December.

But.........if it is NOT covered - what are my chances of finding a green and cream drivers seat in a breakers yard ? And how much ??

Also, do the Fiat 500 seats fit ( are they the same as the Panda ? ) and were they ever done in that green and cream colour scheme ?
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Re: Premature wear of faux leather seat.

That's shocking tbf. Clearly not fit for purpose. Insist that it's replaced under warranty.
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Re: Premature wear of faux leather seat.

Well, I showed to my local Fiat dealer when booking the 24 month service for December.

He took photos and sent them to Fiat.

He has asked me to open a case with Fiat Customer services. Not sure if this means they initially refused to cover under warranty and I am "appealing" or if opening a case is part of the process anyway.

Been promised a response within a few days so I guess I will know soon.
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Re: Premature wear of faux leather seat.

Don't take no for an answer. A seat cover should last much longer than that without falling apart.
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Quote Originally Posted by theshootist View Post
Well, I showed to my local Fiat dealer when booking the 24 month service for December.

He took photos and sent them to Fiat.

He has asked me to open a case with Fiat Customer services. Not sure if this means they initially refused to cover under warranty and I am "appealing" or if opening a case is part of the process anyway.

Been promised a response within a few days so I guess I will know soon.
I will go and play the same game. Mine (with the identical splits) is on the third year warranty now, but still I'd argue that the seat cover should at least outlive the warranty!
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Re: Premature wear of faux leather seat.

Quote Originally Posted by Herts Hillhopper View Post
I will go and play the same game. Mine (with the identical splits) is on the third year warranty now, but still I'd argue that the seat cover should at least outlive the warranty!
Might be an idea to do it NOW while my case is open. That way they can see a pattern rather than telling us that WE must have caused the damage.

Call Fiat customer services, 0800 number, option 2, and tell them of my case ref 34888783, LL64LWW reg so they can cross reference.
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Might be an idea to do it NOW while my case is open. That way they can see a pattern rather than telling us that WE must have caused the damage.

Call Fiat customer services, 0800 number, option 2, and tell them of my case ref 34888783, LL64LWW reg so they can cross reference.
I think because Im in the third year of the warranty, I need to approach via the dealer. Will try that when I get a chance. I might also mention the dash rattle (that had gone away but has returned as the weather's cooled). Very lightly resting a hand on dash to left of the big demist vent stops it. So does altering the heating!
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