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Old 24-02-2016   #1
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Hill Start Control

I just wondered if anyone has the Hill Start Control fitted to their Panda. Mine came as standard on mine, its a TA Duologic. I certainly wouldn't have paid extra for it, but now I have it, I'd like to know anyone elses experiences with it.
I find that when it works, its very good BUT it feels like the its ability to sense when its on a gradient isn't sensitive enough. In the handbook they list what the angle has to be before it engages (I can't remember what it is) but it seems to allow it to roll on more occasions than I experienced when driving a Ford Fiesta in exactly the same conditions a little while ago.
Before anyone jumps in with the inevitable "you should know how to drive without it", I would turn it off if I could! Thankfully it still has a conventional hand-brake, unlike the Ford which was fully automated, but at least it worked as it should.
I'm guessing that there isn't any way to turn up the sensitivity of the system?
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Re: Hill Start Control

I like it. The car will roll back on very slight slopes but other than that it's great.
I have it on my VW too and it works just as good on both cars.

Since you're driving a duo logic , can you not use your left foot to brake during the times when the car might roll back?
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Re: Hill Start Control

I have this on my 4x4...

Hill Holder operates on gradients over 5% (about 1 in 12), but only if you...
  • come to rest with foot on brake
  • depress clutch and leave in gear, or select neutral and take foot off clutch (but leave brake on)
  • and do not use the handbrake.
On lifting foot from footbrake, it will hold you for two seconds before releasing (or sooner if you pull away before then)

It is cancelled if you use the handbrake when stopped.
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Re: Hill Start Control

I thought it would be a waste of time, but actually it's quite useful (there are some hills in East Anglia!) and it seems to work well, once you realise that it cuts out after a few seconds.
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Quote Originally Posted by Herts Hillhopper View Post
I have this on my 4x4...

Hill Holder operates on gradients over 5% (about 1 in 12), but only if you...
  • come to rest with foot on brake
  • depress clutch and leave in gear, or select neutral and take foot off clutch (but leave brake on)
  • and do not use the handbrake.
On lifting foot from footbrake, it will hold you for two seconds before releasing (or sooner if you pull away before then)

It is cancelled if you use the
handbrake when stopped.
Thanks for the info. As I said, I think it works well if you're on a gradient that exceeds the required 5% (1 in 20 actually!) but I feel that it should be lower, say 3%, as I find it doesn't engage in slopes that are significant enough to cause the car roll back as soon as the brake is released.
As such, I just end up using the hand brake as I've always done. Sadly, it seems like another example of Fiat not being able to get things quite right with modern technology that other manufacturers don't have a problem with.
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Re: Hill Start Control

I also think it should engage on lower slopes, it's damned silly to find yourself having to control roll back when you've got a system intended to prevent it.

There's an intersection I drive through (and inevitably get caught at) every afternoon. If I'm at the front of the queue, the hill start holds. One car back, it doesn't. Damned silly and it's a pity because it's a function I like. Besides, if they want us to use the handbrake, designing one you can rather than the fool of a thing they've put in the Panda would be a good start.
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Re: Hill Start Control

Works fine for me (in hilly Devon or Umbria)
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