Technical short changed new order?

TempraTDSX · Nov 25, 2015

deeyup said:
Before you dive in with the dealer, if you do have the conti crosscontact winter as per standard 4x4, then they are marked mud and snow.

Take a look on the sidewall. You should find this marking.

this is the mud and snow mark.

Extremely useful Deeyup and NO our tyres don't have any of those markings.

TempraTDSX · Nov 26, 2015

Contacted the dealer yesterday, they said the tyres were all season but would investigate and get back to me. All season aren't M&S tyres are they?

Herts Hillhopper · Nov 26, 2015

'All season' tyres will not necessarily have 'm+s' written on them but will always have that mountain and snowflake sign.

Continental don't make an all season car tyre. You previously said Continental EcoContact - that is a summer tyre and def. not all season or off road at all.

Potential candidates include Goodyear Vector (the standard fit on the Cross with the 'normal' wheels) , Dunlop SP4Seasons, Kleber Quadraxer, etc...

see this report for the 'best of this years bunch - and note in the photos how they all have a pretty 'aggressive' tread pattern too... http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2015-AutoBild-All-Season-Tyre-Test.htm

Panda 4x4 TA Antarctica · Nov 26, 2015

Pity the Continental CrossContact wasn't
tested, too - that would be a great comparison for us Panda drivers when it comes to tyre replacement! Though I'm always a little sceptical of such tests as I'm sure differing vehicles, sizes and fitments will impact which is best suited to a particular model.
I've been pleased with the Continental CrossContacts on our standard 4x4 (not Cross) in the weather we've had Feb-Nov. Seem sure footed in cooler damp conditions with decent control in the warmer dry conditions of summer. I guess we'll get to test them on the slippery stuff this winter....

MickG · Nov 26, 2015

After doing a good few years and seasons in my previous car on Bridgestone A001 Weather Controls, I'd always recommend them as a good 4 season tyre. Unfortunately I'm not sure they whether or not they come in the right size for the Panda.
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Herts Hillhopper · Nov 26, 2015

Panda 4x4 TA Antarctica said:
Pity the Continental CrossContact wasn't
tested, too - that would be a great comparison for us Panda drivers when it comes to tyre replacement!

It wouldn't have been in that test as that was for all season, not 'full winter' tyres (the CrossContact winter is the latter). But I think I did read a test somewhere - I'll see if I can find it.

[moments later: http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2013-Auto-Bild-SUV-4x4-Winter-Tyre-Test.htm - note CrossContact 'best in snow' ]

gar074 · Nov 27, 2015

Confusingly, Tyrereviews don't classify ContiCrossContact Winter tyres as full winters - they describe them as all season! Conti's full winter tyres are called WinterContact. They are all tested here (with links to the comparison tests - the latest 2015 tests make interesting reading):

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Continental/

That makes sense, as it would be a strange decision for a manufacturer to fit full winter tyres as standard to its 4x4s, many of which will never see any snow.

Herts Hillhopper · Nov 27, 2015

gar074 said:
Confusingly, Tyrereviews don't classify ContiCrossContact Winter tyres as full winters - they describe them as all season! Conti's full winter tyres are called WinterContact. They are all tested here (with links to the comparison tests - the latest 2015 tests make interesting reading):

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Continental/

That makes sense, as it would be a strange decision for a manufacturer to fit full winter tyres as standard to its 4x4s, many of which will never see any snow.

Also, crucially, they are listed under 4x4 and SUV - back to the original thread, a cross on Summer tyres has lost its SUV potential...

Ceidio · Mar 26, 2016

My new Cross arrived with standard 4x4 wheels AND...............wait for it.............175/65 ContiEcoContact tyres! I ordered standard Cross wheels with 185 M&S tyres. My dealer is being great about it and is sending someone out next week with the correct wheel/tyre combo. Why the heck would Fiat fit Eco tyres on a Cross in the first place? MADNESS.

Officina red · Mar 27, 2016

Can't help but wonder how Tempra got on

Ceidio · Mar 30, 2016

Ceidio said:
My new Cross arrived with standard 4x4 wheels AND...............wait for it.............175/65 ContiEcoContact tyres! I ordered standard Cross wheels with 185 M&S tyres. My dealer is being great about it and is sending someone out next week with the correct wheel/tyre combo. Why the heck would Fiat fit Eco tyres on a Cross in the first place? MADNESS.

UPDATE: Dealer (Griffin Mill) just drove 180 miles to my home to fit the correct wheel/tyre combo. Now has the standard Cross wheels with 185 M&S tyres. Now THAT is what I call Customer Service.

JTD_Liam · Mar 30, 2016

That's crazily impressive customer service. I might expect it from Ferarri, but I can't say I'd expect it from Fiat. That's not to say I don't think they should do it, but I'm very (pleasantly) surprised by it!

Ceidio · Mar 30, 2016

It was completely dealer led. Nowt to do with Fiat themselves.

JTD_Liam · Apr 1, 2016

That makes more sense. You'd still be getting told 'they're the correct wheels and tyres for the Cross, Sir' if you were dealing direct with Fiat (UK). However even the dealers don't usually deliver that level of service - i'm impressed!

triumph7 · May 10, 2016

Off topic I know, but slightly connected.
We have ordered a Jeep Renegade. On 27/4 dealer offered 0% PCP deal on privilege purchase scheme. On 7/5 confirmed order over phone and deposit paid. Later dealer emails to say 0% no longer available, it's now 0.9% and the repayment will now be ......
After much emailing back and forth, I have just told them that unless Jeep finance honour the original offer we will not be proceeding.
Am I being unreasonable or are they?

babbo_umbro · May 10, 2016

triumph7 said:
Off topic I know, but slightly connected.
We have ordered a Jeep Renegade. On 27/4 dealer offered 0% PCP deal on privilege purchase scheme. On 7/5 confirmed order over phone and deposit paid. Later dealer emails to say 0% no longer available, it's now 0.9% and the repayment will now be ......
After much emailing back and forth, I have just told them that unless Jeep finance honour the original offer we will not be proceeding.
Am I being unreasonable or are they?

You're being reasonable, they're trying it on.

triumph7 · May 10, 2016

babbo_umbro said:
You're being reasonable, they're trying it on.

Latest is that the dealer MD is talking to Jeep. They either want a (£32k) sale or they don't as far as I'm concerned.... Trouble is, the car is what we want, there is nothing else remotely of interest other than disco sport and that wayyyy to expensive)

MickG · May 10, 2016

They're changing the deal after the deposit has been paid? Then they are.

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deeyup · May 10, 2016

If you've been been proposed and accepted for The finance then they should honour the deal you signed up to. More FCA shenanigans!

triumph7 · May 11, 2016

deeyup said:
If you've been been proposed and accepted for The finance then they should honour the deal you signed up to. More FCA shenanigans!

Yes, I think you're right.....it's all gone quiet, I suspect they going to lose a sale....ho-hum

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