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Re: Cross 0.9 TwinAir 90hp

Interest rates are better on the PPS... and if you buy over 3yrs you will save a packet compared to the four years they always quote.
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Re: Cross 0.9 TwinAir 90hp

Mark, it'll be here as soon as I can get it 👍
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Mark, it'll be here as soon as I can get it 👍
Hi Si. As you can see I have finally joined the forum that I've been following and talking about for nearly a year. It was great to thank them for all the amazing info I have gained. I think its been the best possible deal available on the new cross that I've got via you & fiat.
I see you joined up in 2006! You love your fiats. I might read ur old posts later.
I hope my posts on here can add to the help that future buyers can gain from reading this forum. I gained, that's for sure, otherwise I'd be buying a trekking at full price rather than a cross at a bargain price.
I know you'll keep me informed on its progress but do you have any idea if Dec is even likely?
See you on Saturday for tato's 90th
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So are the interest rates under the PPS the same as those available to buyers outside that scheme? I thought the rates for PPS buyers were supposed to be more favourable.
Hi there gar, I knew you'd post on my thread at some point as I've read lots of your questions to the others in the know.
All I can say is, don't get hung up on the APR rates between the PPS and non PPS, its so marginal, trust me. My interest is 80p but my rate is 1.3%, its coz no one can escape the 285 fee. Using the fiat website, my rate was still 1.3% but the interest was 2.45.
You must play with the finance calculator and work out the deal for yourself. The FDC is currently 1400 but is 3250 in the PPS. As long as the customer deposit includes 1850 of the extra PPS FDC then the figures will be virtually bang on. My monthly only varied by 5p.
My advice is simple, if you want a cross, then now is the time to save 1850 over buying it by non privilege methods. Yes you need a nice deposit and be willing to pay 4900 as a final payment after 34 months if you want to only pay 13k for a 16k new car. Yes its still a lot of money, buying this car was a massive step for me and every extra pound that remains in my bank account or pocket is a right result.
Are you truely in the market for buying a brand new car? If so, take the plunge, its the right car.
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Great news to see 3 new Cross's on order already, and some excellent deals around too.

On the subject of rust I personally wouldn't bother with anything extra unless you want to go for some sort of record in having the longest lasting Panda Cross. Having owned 3 Fiat's and now an Alfa, and worked in a Fiat/Alfa/Mazda combined dealer (which also serviced many other makes), the Fiat's & Alfa's were leagues ahead of the Mazda's underneath in terms of rust resistance.

I know it's easy to say this when you're a Fiat-fan but I was genuinely quite shocked at how different the brands looked underneath at a few years old. My 2004 Fiat Stilo with 104k on the clock, which gets washed underneath about twice a year only has a bit of rust on the exhaust, there's nothing else anywhere visible and it's just sailed through another MOT. Compare that to several Mazda's that I saw underneath that were littered with scabby rust patches and probably worse (I only glanced at them). Might be the connection with Ford that did Mazda damage, so it might improve now, but I think save for the subframe issue on the old Brava/Bravo/Multipla models and floor pan rust protection problems on some Alfa 156/147's, Fiat Group have pretty much put rust problems to bed long ago.

I reckon most modern Fiat's will die or become uneconomical to repair long before corrosion becomes a problem, as is the case with a lot of modern cars. Just hose it off underneath, particularly when road salt is being used, and you'll be fine.
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Quote Originally Posted by Bundes View Post
Hi Si. As you can see I have finally joined the forum that I've been following and talking about for nearly a year. It was great to thank them for all the amazing info I have gained. I think its been the best possible deal available on the new cross that I've got via you & fiat.
I see you joined up in 2006! You love your fiats. I might read ur old posts later.
I hope my posts on here can add to the help that future buyers can gain from reading this forum. I gained, that's for sure, otherwise I'd be buying a trekking at full price rather than a cross at a bargain price.
I know you'll keep me informed on its progress but do you have any idea if Dec is even likely?
See you on Saturday for tato's 90th
Mark,

At the longest, 12 weeks, I have had factory order panda'a arrive in 6 weeks before but I can't say at this point how long it'll take. What I will do is everytime the status changes I'll let txt u with a wee explination if what that status means.

As for loving my fiats, yes and I miss my abarth so much, that I'm letting Susan use the focus as her car and I'm on the look out for either a tipo 2.0 16v sedicivavole, or a mk1 punto gt as summin for myself
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Just done the underside and all the visible bolts with Waxoyl... really easy to apply when heating the can in a bucket of hot water and spraying on with a pump action garden sprayer.

Did ours the weekend we picked it up, after only four miles on the clock!
I think I'm going to go down a similar route as you. I'm going to use a substance that is used at my work, I dont even know its name. It starts as a thick liquid but becomes a solid rubber-like water resistant gel coating that is peelable when required. The sub frame will be getting a good coating of paint and the rest I plan to spray yearly with a silicon based lubricant to help repel water. The cross has underbody steel protective shields, so I reckon they will need looking after yearly.
I would love this car to last for a mighty long time. I think I will have more muddy bumpy fun with the cross the older it gets, so anything I can do to help it reach a grand old age, I will attempt to do. The cross ticks a hell of a lot of boxes for me, and due to me never buying a new car before, it might be a while until another car ticks the same important boxes.
When I took my first car, Yreg fiat127 1300GT, for its first MOT (with me as its owner), the Tester asked me & my dad, "who's the painter?". As I bought the car before I passed my test, I spent more time under the car than driving it. After I had finished rebuilding the passengerside footwell (amongst many other places) with fiberglass, it got one hell of a paint job. I think it was the gloss break pipes that distracted him away from the fiber-floor. It was a great first car! Who wanted a crappy mini metro, fiesta or the likes, not me. I got twin carbs, bucket seats and alloys as standard but I bet that all that is left of that fiat is the big piece of fiberglass.
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Re: Cross 0.9 TwinAir 90hp

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I think I'm going to go down a similar route as you. I'm going to use a substance that is used at my work, I dont even know its name. It starts as a thick liquid but becomes a solid rubber-like water resistant gel coating that is peelable when required. The sub frame will be getting a good coating of paint and the rest I plan to spray yearly with a silicon based lubricant to help repel water. The cross has underbody steel protective shields, so I reckon they will need looking after yearly.
I would love this car to last for a mighty long time. I think I will have more muddy bumpy fun with the cross the older it gets, so anything I can do to help it reach a grand old age, I will attempt to do. The cross ticks a hell of a lot of boxes for me, and due to me never buying a new car before, it might be a while until another car ticks the same important boxes.
When I took my first car, Yreg fiat127 1300GT, for its first MOT (with me as its owner), the Tester asked me & my dad, "who's the painter?". As I bought the car before I passed my test, I spent more time under the car than driving it. After I had finished rebuilding the passengerside footwell (amongst many other places) with fiberglass, it got one hell of a paint job. I think it was the gloss break pipes that distracted him away from the fiber-floor. It was a great first car! Who wanted a crappy mini metro, fiesta or the likes, not me. I got twin carbs, bucket seats and alloys as standard but I bet that all that is left of that fiat is the big piece of fiberglass.
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Great choice of first car! Mine was a 1050CL with none of the sparkly bits you mentioned, but more fun than all the assorted junk friends had (including an early XR3 which was comfortable and looked the part, but that's it). A 127 will run rings round nearly everything of a similar age, and will out accelerate a 2.4 jelly mould Granada (it was new, and couldn't keep up once we hit 70...... ). This is why I still have a couple of 127's, and also why I fell down a long and slippery Fiat slope.......

Anyway, underbody protection is waaayyyy better these days, and they use steel in their steel too (which helps! ). No harm in extra protection though - just use a proper underseal not something that might work but fell off a lorry - it might be fine, but make sure it's not going to peel and then trap water elsewhere. Good old engine oil does a half decent job when it leaks from an old mk2 Panda(!), but personally I'd go for a tried & tested Waxoyl or Dinitrol type product.

You're right about the older it gets - come along to the Yorkshire offroad weekends & see how the mk2 4x4 Panda's are used - some are now getting a bit valuable to do anything too extreme, so the cheapest mk3's are now taking up the slack!
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These status codes are as follows.

10: Heavy Variability, Confirmed Order. Fiat has your order but it can still be changed

13: Light Variability, Confirmed Order. This is the point where only limited changes to your order can now happen.

16: Fixed, Confirmed Order. your order is now fixed and can no longer be changed with regards factory spec.

20: Built, Fairly self explanatory.

30: Shipment, At dock waiting to get on a boat.

35: Transit, On the water bobbing along to the UK

40: Arrived, At the docks in good old Blighty

45: Ready, Car is waiting for collection by transport company.

50: With Delivery Instruction, Delivery instruction has been sent to transport company.

55: Goods Out, Car is on a transporter on its way to your dealer

60: Arrival at Dealership, Yay! From Status 60 till you pick up your car is now dependent on what dealership options you have, how efficient your dealer is and when you want to pick it up.[/QUOTE]


To the others guys that have a Cross on order, I was given the status of my Cross today and I reckon its getting built very soon, maybe even tonight. Its status 16, so its no going back with changing my options, engine or colour. Next stage is built.
Maybe you should get in touch with your dealer tomorrow morning guys.

I read on another thread about deals not available on the Cross, think the dealer is trying to punt older stock 4x4s & Trekkings. If what I got my cross for isn't proof that amazing deals ARE 100% AVAILABLE, then I don't know what is. Guys, research the Privilege Purchase Scheme, start by using fiat.co.uk , look in the tab "fleet" then "partners" and see what you could join to then entitle you to a 3250 Fiat deposit contribution rather than the current 1400. Use google to research the rest. This works for the trekking guys, u can pick one up for about 9500 before options. My advice is, grab the deal now but hey, it might get even better in Quarter 1 of 2015. 2014 Q3=2300 , Q4=3250

Wouldnt it be cool if you could watch your factory order fiat being built, live online.
The birth of my RED X G14NT X PANDA CROSS. I even let the robots squeeze my hand during the labour.

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I can't wait till the Cross becomes the old second car that I can play with.
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When I saw your pics, I thought they'd built your Cross last night, and were enjoying playing with it today before giving it a quick rub down with an oily rag, zeroing the mileometer and putting it on a transporter to the UK
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Isn't it a shame the Beige Cross didn't even make the launch party for the UK dealerships.
I was gonna go for the yellow and get the roof and pillars wrapped in blue, as the Mrs & her family are from Ukrainian blood.
The Red won eventually for me but at one point I had picked each colour. I was a hard choice.
Let's have a wee fiat forum vote, what would be your choice of the available colours if you were to buy & live with a new Cross? I predict that black will be a popular choice. Its a very shiny black but I didn't like it with the matt black of the trim. I think other nice colours will become available over the next couple of years, especially to boost sales before each winter. That 500 NU BLU is lovely. I also see the 500 has a new green.

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When I saw your pics, I thought they'd built your Cross last night, and were enjoying playing with it today before giving it a quick rub down with an oily rag, zeroing the mileometer and putting it on a transporter to the UK
Hey, maybe they did and posted these pictures today, those pesky Italian robots, build it on the nightshift then going for a muddy burl on a Saturday morning before the Boss gets in.

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It would have to be the black for me. Just negotiating with the dealer at the moment to swap out the 1 year old Antarctica for a shiny new Cross using the Privilege scheme. My only stipulation is to not pay any extra each month!
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Nice one Bundes, that's the first time I have actually seen a green Cross in the metal - or rather the pixel! Going to give my dealer a ring tomorrow to see where they are up to in Naples.😋
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