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Old 01-02-2018   #31
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Re: Panda 2012 twin air stop start problems

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Well my Dad also freewheeled as the Rover P4 he had was equipped with it. All well and good till one time with yours truly in the car he was running out of road to slow in time for a roundabout, to engage fixed wheel the revs have to be brought up and a wheel rotated below the dash, he managed it and slammed it in to second as well as standing on the brakes and bending the steering wheel. Quite a feat and I lived to tell the tale. Shortly after he bought a Singer Chamois.
That was interesting as it would happily do 55mpg, 875cc so we really haven't moved much on fuel consumption in 50 odd years.
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Shortly after he bought a Singer Chamois. That was interesting as it would happily do 55mpg, 875cc so we really haven't moved much on fuel consumption in 50 odd years.
Ah, memories! I had a lovely dark green Sunbeam Stiletto in the 70s which was an absolute hoot to drive, except at speed and in the wet, when it was often terrifying (even with a bag of sand under the bonnet to weight up the steering and improve the straight line stability).

I always thought it was aptly named - Stiletto - because in the wrong conditions it would metaphorically knife you silently between the shoulder-blades without warning. But it was much more fun than my Cross TA (and it felt a lot quicker too, although I see that its official 0-60 was a leisurely 16 seconds lol!!).

Back on topic, today my Cross hit the 30k mark - and it's still only had one brief outing in the snow! So far, nothing's broken or fallen off, it's not needed any warranty work, and it still looks very smart when washed (which happens very rarely). I still find the seats and driving position (and the cupholders!) abysmal, it's unacceptably raucous through the gears, and the fuel consumption continues to disappoint. It hasn't (yet) inspired my affection in the way that our mark 1 & 2 Pandas did, although it has earned my respect.

And it's yellow, which helps to compensate for its faults.
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Ah, memories! I had a lovely dark green Sunbeam Stiletto in the 70s which was an absolute hoot to drive..

Back on topic, today my Cross hit the 30k mark - and it's still only had one brief outing in the snow! So far, nothing's broken or fallen off, it's not needed any warranty work, and it still looks very smart when washed (which happens very rarely). I still find the seats and driving position (and the cupholders!) abysmal, it's unacceptably raucous through the gears, and the fuel consumption continues to disappoint. It hasn't (yet) inspired my affection in the way that our mark 1 & 2 Pandas did, although it has earned my respect.

And it's yellow, which helps to compensate for its faults.
The engine in the Stiletto/Hillman Imp was designed by Coventry Climax, makers of firepump and Grand Prix motors.

It's odd, isn't it - my 4x4 TA has been satisfactory in every way - apart, perhaps, from mpg - but it hasn't wormed its way into my affections either, unlike the preceding 100HP. The subjective issues around cars are a mystery.
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I love 'carton of milk' holder that allows me to stow a litre of milk in front of the stubby handbrake. It's probably not for that... but it complements the 'loaf of bread' holder on the passenger-side dash perfectly.
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Re: Panda 2012 twin air stop start problems

I used to own an Alfa Romeo Mito 1.4 Veloce Multi Air with S/S technology, it was just out of warranty when I bought it and the S/S practically never worked and that drove me bat****. In the end I replaced the battery that was fine in every other aspect and spent a few bob on a top of the range Yuasa battery and it was fine after that. You have to bear in mind what others have said, the system is sensitive to load etc, so if the engine is still cold it will not kick in or if the outside temperature is too low or if the heating fan is on max or the other systems are drawing a lot of juice such as heated seats and front window etc, it's all part of the intelligent circuitry.
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It never worked on my two Panda's 85 Lounge, and i do no longer bother to get it working.
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