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A1,

Just spoke to your dealer and yes they are extremely helpful (as are mine also thankfully). Passed their tech guy's contact details onto my dealers tech guy just now so that they can compare notes. Will keep you posted.

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A1,

Just spoke to your dealer and yes they are extremely helpful (as are mine also thankfully). Passed their tech guy's contact details onto my dealers tech guy just now so that they can compare notes. Will keep you posted.

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Will be interesting to see whether the problems are the same. Out of interest, when was your car built? Mine would have been built in December. Perhaps the factory workers had their minds on xmas too much
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Will be interesting to see whether the problems are the same. Out of interest, when was your car built? Mine would have been built in December. Perhaps the factory workers had their minds on xmas too much
I'm certain that from the descriptions we've both given of our issues that the problem is the same.

My car built in December also.

I must say that whilst thinking about this again this morning, it is a bit of an embarrassment to Fiat that their cars still have mechanical problems like this. A synchromesh gearbox is hardly rocket science by todays standards is it. Only a few weeks ago a dealer principal and I were discussing how problems are never mechanical these days but almost always related to electronics/electrics. Almost!
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I'm certain that from the descriptions we've both given of our issues that the problem is the same.

My car built in December also.

I must say that whilst thinking about this again this morning, it is a bit of an embarrassment to Fiat that their cars still have mechanical problems like this. A synchromesh gearbox is hardly rocket science by todays standards is it. Only a few weeks ago a dealer principal and I were discussing how problems are never mechanical these days but almost always related to electronics/electrics. Almost!
Inconvenient as it is, in fairness to fiat, my grande punto 1.2 and the panda mjet that followed it were pretty solid reliability wise.

The worst thing the punto had was a suspension spring breaking, however whilst dropping a piece on to the road, it drove the same and wasnt dangerous. I think suspension issues affect most manufacturers these days.

The diesel panda and I got off to a rocky start with some scary injector seal problems. This was down to not really being looked after prior to me getting it. I say scary as the garage thought I was going to need a new engine at one point if they couldn't get the seals off. Once sorted, that car was brilliant. Very relaxed engine for longer journeys and great economy.

I'm not too concerned about this gearbox issue, I've never been left by the roadside in a fiat, and the trekking was still working pretty much fine with the occasional fourth gear crunch. I have every faith that it will be as reliable as my other fiats once it's sorted.

Saying all this though, my courtesy 500 keeps activating the ABS under normal braking. Not too alarming currently but may have to take it back at some point!
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Will be interesting to see whether the problems are the same. Out of interest, when was your car built? Mine would have been built in December. Perhaps the factory workers had their minds on xmas too much
Most likely a bad batch of parts - I doubt it's an assembly fault.
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@mwcf I was just wondering how your case was progressing. I was expecting a call on Monday but not heard anything yet.
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@mwcf I was just wondering how your case was progressing. I was expecting a call on Monday but not heard anything yet.
Still waiting. You heard anything more today??
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Quote Originally Posted by mwcf View Post
I'm certain that from the descriptions we've both given of our issues that the problem is the same.

My car built in December also.

I must say that whilst thinking about this again this morning, it is a bit of an embarrassment to Fiat that their cars still have mechanical problems like this. A synchromesh gearbox is hardly rocket science by todays standards is it. Only a few weeks ago a dealer principal and I were discussing how problems are never mechanical these days but almost always related to electronics/electrics. Almost!
My punto TA,
2012 build - crunches every now + again..,
thought it was just me..,
I'll have to take note..,
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Still waiting. You heard anything more today??
Still nothing... I really dont want to have to ring them. Getting fed up with the 500 now, drinks petrol like nobodies business, brake pedal and steering still feel weird to me, and road roar is much louder than the panda. There are a few things I like, but they're wearing thin: gearchange is better than the panda at least. Has the snappy positive action of my old mk3 that the mk4 seems to lack slightly. Also has the early cancelling indicators of the mk3, funny how quickly I have reverted back to my old habits of holding the stalk when using roundabouts.

I will have to use it for the dog on Friday, been getting my brother to ferry her where she needs to go but stuck on friday. Hope they wont charge me a valet bill. I will get the waterproof hammock out for the back seats and hope she doesn't shed too much hair during the journey :banghead:
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My punto TA,
2012 build - crunches every now + again..,
thought it was just me..,
I'll have to take note..,
Charlie
I'd get it looked at while in warranty if I were you. Preferably while its under fiat and not the third year dealer warranty. I'm still sure this isn't a wide ranging fault though, until I posted I hadnt seen anything related to the gearbox before on the panda. Hopefully in your case it's nothing to worry about.
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The Panda 1.2 (12 plate 9k mile) my dealer gave me to run around in is quite a perky likeable little car! Not fast but willingly zippy with a swift neat gear change. Kinda takes me back to how Ford Fiestas felt in the 80s - light and simple. I'm giving it quite a few beans and getting 44mpg. It really is a surprisingly decent little car.

I'll be getting an update on the 4x4 TA gearbox situation tomorrow.
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The Panda 1.2 (12 plate 9k mile) my dealer gave me to run around in is quite a perky likeable little car! Not fast but willingly zippy with a swift neat gear change. Kinda takes me back to how Ford Fiestas felt in the 80s - light and simple. I'm giving it quite a few beans and getting 44mpg. It really is a surprisingly decent little car.
The 1.2 Panda is a surprisingly capable little car and if bought new with the right discount , tremendous value for money.

IMO this is what FIAT are best at - producing small, reliable, economical cars which undercut all but the crappiest of the competition.
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The verdict is in.

Gearbox being replaced under warranty.

More details to follow.
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The verdict is in.

Gearbox being replaced under warranty.

More details to follow.
Same here! Got a phone call last night. Only problem was I hadnt left my locking wheel nut key with them, and ive been stuck at work on an overnight shift til this afternoon. Luckily my brother is dropping it in for me all going to plan I will have my panda back this afternoon.
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[QUOTE=Alsatian1;341991 Only problem was I hadnt left my locking wheel nut key with them[/QUOTE]

I know this is a typical numpty thing to do, but I have never had a car with alloys before lol so forgot
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