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Old 19-09-2013   #16
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Re: Spacesaver and Jack set for 32.50!

wanting a space saver wheel for my daughters panda it has 15 inch wheels so am i right in thinking a mk2 punto spare wheel will do the job is the mk2 wheel a regular wheel or a space saver or are they only suitable if your panda has 14 inch wheels
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Re: Spacesaver and Jack set for 32.50!

Hi,
it's all down to the circumference of the tyre fitted,
you SHOULD have the same rolling diameter,
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Re: Spacesaver and Jack set for 32.50!

Likewise fiat quoted me 275 for a sppacesaver wheel,so like you i went on e bay got a full siz rim 5/2 j14 brand new from a company called oponio for 35 free delivery.i took it to the local tyre depot and got them to fit a budget 175x65/r14 for 39 total outlay 74 saving 200 on fiats price.i now have a full sized spare which raises the boot floor slightly but is easily overcome by puting some stiff foam packing under the boot mat on either side of the spare wheel hope that this info might help others
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Re: Spacesaver and Jack set for 32.50!

I've just bought a 2013 Panda 4x4 which has 4 stud 15" diameter wheels - having read the various questions/answers in this thread - am I correct in thinking that a spacesaver from any Fiat with the same dia and 4 studs will be OK?

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PS how do Fiat justify charging so much for a spare wheel?!
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Re: Spacesaver and Jack set for 32.50!

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I've just bought a 2013 Panda 4x4 which has 4 stud 15" diameter wheels - having read the various questions/answers in this thread - am I correct in thinking that a spacesaver from any Fiat with the same dia and 4 studs will be OK?

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PS how do Fiat justify charging so much for a spare wheel?!
No - you must make sure that the offset's right - I'm not sure how much they vary, however.
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No - you must make sure that the offset's right - I'm not sure how much they vary, however.
Thanks - can anyone tell me where/how I'd find out what the offset (ET number) is for my car please? (Panda 4x4 registered Sept 2013 with 4 stud 15" diameter alloys)

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Re: Spacesaver and Jack set for 32.50!

This site gives the offset for the current Panda as 35. There's no specific listing for the 4x4, but I see that on the old Pandas, the offset was the same on all variants.

http://www.wheelfitment.eu/car/Fiat/...2%20-%20).html
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Re: Spacesaver and Jack set for 32.50!

Thanks to all for this helpful thread. I too have now sourced and bought from Ebay a 15" spacesaver for my 4x4, including the inner tray tools and jack. Correct size, including the ET35 offset. And fits correctly in teh spare wheel well too. (Note: a full size 15" wheel wont fit)

But since its come from a 'normal' (not 4x4) Fiat the jack is not 'big' enough for the 4x4 - won't go high enough. Does anyone know what lift height I need to find (could jack car with trolley jack and measure, but its worth a quick ask here first.) Screwfix and Halfords both sell scissor jacks with upto 390mm lift - that may not be enough?

Found that the wheelbrace with it was also too big (19mm a/f), and also that the extended towing eye from the 4x4 (longer to reach into the deeper bumpers) won't fit the older tray. Suspect I'll end up binning that tray in the end, since taller jack not likely to fit into it anyway.
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Re: Spacesaver and Jack set for 32.50!

You've the got me thinking, now, Herts Hillhopper.... Our Antarctica came with a space saver, jack etc (bought nearly new), but I've never had the jack out to see if it'll actually lift the car high enough! I wonder....don't want to get stranded at the roadside... (Will be anxiously looking for a couple of planks to stick under the jack!)

Once this rain stops I might get out and have a look - if it lift sit acceptably, I'll measure the height.
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Re: Spacesaver and Jack set for 32.50!

If your Antarctica was factory-supplied with a spare, then it should have the dedicated 4x4 jack (there's a label on it saying "4x4 and Qubo"), and it will be too big to sit inside the spare wheel. If it is inside the wheel (in a polystyrene moulding with the other tools), then it will be the wrong one - follow this thread back up as that's exactly how it started...
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Re: Spacesaver and Jack set for 32.50!

So - I looked at the spare in our Panda 4x4, bought 1yr old in Feb. Guess what? 135/80 R14 space-saver and wheel-mounted jack from a Punto in it - tried the jack and it is, as you might guess, too short.

So it looks like the dealer sold the previous owner the wrong accessory spare kit. Naughty Dealer!

So I need a complete 4x4 kit, it would seem. Just to confirm - it should be a 135/? R15 space-saver, should it? ( what profile?)

Glad I've found this now, rather than at the roadside, in the rain and dark, with a sobbing family to consider!

First port of call will be the dealer - in my view, supplying a vehicle with the wrong size space saver is pretty dangerous......
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Re: Spacesaver and Jack set for 32.50!

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S...I need a complete 4x4 kit, it would seem. Just to confirm - it should be a 135/? R15 space-saver, should it? ( what profile?)....
Sorry for slow reply - been on holiday. The 4x4 supplement to the owners handbook shows the details of the spacesaver spare (on page 9) - 125/80 R15 (and I have assumed it needs the same ET35 offset). That skinny tyre gets inflated to 4.2 bar (which is 61 PSI!)
By the way, I found that this jack from Screwfix was a perfect height, and since marked to lift 1.5tonnes, was more 'robust' feeling than the lighter-weight Fiat one I couldn't use: http://www.screwfix.com/p/1-5-tonne-scissor-jack/97595
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Re: Spacesaver and Jack set for 32.50!

Looks good. Can the Screwfix one be used OK on the same mounting points as the official Fiat jack?
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Re: Spacesaver and Jack set for 32.50!

I've jacked it up to test it, and yes. But, the 'notch' in the Fiat jack is deeper, so the well seam on the inner cill slots into it and the 'box section' of the cill rests on the jack. With the Screwfix one the slot is not so deep so the seam carries the weight. However, this is exactly what happens if a trolley jack or two post lift is used and it seems to be fine.
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I've jacked it up to test it, and yes. But, the 'notch' in the Fiat jack is deeper, so the well seam on the inner cill slots into it and the 'box section' of the cill rests on the jack. With the Screwfix one the slot is not so deep so the seam carries the weight. However, this is exactly what happens if a trolley jack or two post lift is used and it seems to be fine.
Pete - just have a small length of 4x2 in the boot and sit the jack on this - soon makes up the height difference and job's a good'un! That's what I did anyhoo....
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