Just to stop the fun when it's a courtesy car from experience
I've not tried it. Is it similar ti the anti stall on my old defender? In which case its v useful... Tried hill start the other day - also a good feature
Technical Panda 0.9 Start Stop niggles
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I've not tried it. Is it similar ti the anti stall on my old defender? In which case its v useful... Tried hill start the other day - also a good feature
No, its just a lower rev limiter which only allows the engine to rev to 3000-3500rpm when the car is stationary.
Only thing I noticed on the 500 were the revs auto increasing slightly in reverse. Never done it in first.
babbo_umbro
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I've done nearly 7000 miles in my 4x4 TA since July and I'm becoming suspicious that I may have the Stop & Start premature ejaculation problem. It's quite hard to tell with lots of electrics whirring away in this weather but even after a longish daylight run the car is reluctant to stay stopped (!) for more than (guessing) 8 - 10 seconds, after which it springs into life for no apparent reason.
I'll give it a week or so and then contact my dealer if it's still behaving a bit oddly.
I'll give it a week or so and then contact my dealer if it's still behaving a bit oddly.
hi Again,
I was pointing out the Anti-stall = "artificial revs to 1500"
others were discussing the REV-limiter,
quite different things..
please DO TELL , as it would be good to see if there any noticeable differences in the build spec of essentially identical cars,
Charlie
Just got mine back from the dealer after issues with s/s.... Battery faulty and replaced. Now cured they say.... Time will tell
Well it didn't fix my car changing the battery, hopefully yours is sorted though.
I must admit I'm sceptical. Had a 500c loan car today. The 1.2.... Bit sluggish t b h, but nice car. Much prefer the 4x4 suspension setup. But.... The s/s worked perfectly!
Mine is going in tomorrow to have it's stop/start issue looking at. In typical style it's been fine since I booked it in! I'll update if they find anything.
great, hopefully they'll give a definitive answer to this problem.
Great, hopefully they'll give a definitive answer to this problem.
How's your been working triumph7 the past 7 days?
So far so good. I still remain sceptical cos I can't really believe it was just the battery at fault. We'll see.....
just an overnight charge restores mine for a week of so..,
so I would guess a battery that stores/ transfers the energy better has got to be good
, Charlie
Moultoneer
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just an overnight charge restores mine for a week of so..,
so I would guess a battery that stores/ transfers the energy better has got to be good
Charlie
As my car only gets used about once a week I don't expect the battery
to be adequately charged for stop/start from the word 'go' but on the
long trips I do, it usually works after about 20 miles
Not a major issue in my book... (on my Alfa Mito it hardly ever worked
)Chris
Hi there
I'm a week in and the Start/Stop works perfectly well from 0 miles upwards. I did pull over at a lay-by after about 3 miles to attach my tax disc. I was actually stopped for about 5 minutes fiddling and arranging etc and I'd forgotten that the Start/Stop had engaged in the first so I was surprised that I'd seemingly left the ignition on (which something I just don't do if I'm going to stop), so that through me a bit until I realised)!
I have used the car every day in short and long journeys and (apart from and unexpected early stop of a few yards after a cold start), every time I have expected the system to engage, it has done so.
I have a few concerns though, and one of them is that (after the first encounter of a "prolonged" stop), is that I'll maybe always a bit conscious that say in a queue with traffic lights a complicated contraflow that I might be in fact "stalled" ??!!
So, I'd have to restart with the key as if I have indeed stalled the car. Also on a cold night, with the all the electrics on, like air-con on for demisting purposes, the radio, lights, window heating elements and even heated seats ...... that there might be an unnecessarily big drain/spike on the battery. I mean, I was always told to NEVER start an engine with the headlights on. Anyway, I'm probably worrying too much because like I said, it works perfectly well!
I wouldn't make an on-going habit of this, but if you leave your clutch depressed, I think it acts as and on/off for the system. In any case, f you don't like the idea of it on in and eager, fast, stop, start again urban setting, you can always disengage it completely with a simple press of a button!
I really do think you get the best of both worlds from this system.
I hope your's starts working ASAP.
I'm a week in and the Start/Stop works perfectly well from 0 miles upwards. I did pull over at a lay-by after about 3 miles to attach my tax disc. I was actually stopped for about 5 minutes fiddling and arranging etc and I'd forgotten that the Start/Stop had engaged in the first so I was surprised that I'd seemingly left the ignition on (which something I just don't do if I'm going to stop), so that through me a bit until I realised)!
I have used the car every day in short and long journeys and (apart from and unexpected early stop of a few yards after a cold start), every time I have expected the system to engage, it has done so.
I have a few concerns though, and one of them is that (after the first encounter of a "prolonged" stop), is that I'll maybe always a bit conscious that say in a queue with traffic lights a complicated contraflow that I might be in fact "stalled" ??!!
So, I'd have to restart with the key as if I have indeed stalled the car. Also on a cold night, with the all the electrics on, like air-con on for demisting purposes, the radio, lights, window heating elements and even heated seats ...... that there might be an unnecessarily big drain/spike on the battery. I mean, I was always told to NEVER start an engine with the headlights on. Anyway, I'm probably worrying too much because like I said, it works perfectly well!
I wouldn't make an on-going habit of this, but if you leave your clutch depressed, I think it acts as and on/off for the system. In any case, f you don't like the idea of it on in and eager, fast, stop, start again urban setting, you can always disengage it completely with a simple press of a button!
I really do think you get the best of both worlds from this system.
I hope your's starts working ASAP.
No fault found, even though it did it on the way to the dealers. Hadn't logged any faults on the diagnostic. Told to monitor it and if it happens again bring it back in.
It needs sorting as it often causes problems at traffic lights, you can see the frustration in the people behind me as I'm sat while the light is green.
That doesn't surprise me. The car thinks there is no fault so doesn't store a code.
This is what I think is happening.
The car stops and you take the car out of gear, and release the clutch pedal.
the car is set for a stop engine (voltages etc all being good) scenario so stops the engine.
To restart the car all that is needed is the clutch pedal pushing. This should be the only requirement, however the car is not satisfied with that. For some unknown reason the car thinks it's not being instructed to start with the clutch pedal.
Now I've eliminated the clutch pedal switch by testing it whilst these stop start failures are occurring.
The way to check is to put the car in 1st whilst you are stopped, then without any throttle release the clutch slowly, when the clutch pedal switch activates the revs will rise to around 1300, hence switch working.
So it's not the switch.
Another scenario that would force the car to restart after a stop would be to roll away out of gear and clutch up. Once you reach around 3mph the car should start. This doesn't happen when the car is playing up.
File a case with fiat customer services and then at least there are more cars exhibiting the same fault that they are aware of. Give them my reg CE13 DNO and let them now we have the same fault and that i have an on going case too.
There was a similar situation with my Vespa. It would occasionally cut out for 2 seconds, usually as you were overtaking an hgv on the motorway.
Vespa were denying any faults for nigh on a year. Only a few scooters were showing the fault, but we all got together, reported to Vosa and badgered Vespa into action. They have now taken it seriously and sorted it with an ecu update.
As said before, my car is in for around 10 days in Feb for the dealer to have all the time they need. They said they can connect a computer to the car whilst out on road test which should give us some clues.
I hope they have a real answer for us.
