Hi, I just picked up a nice twinair 85 Lounge Panda, but I think I have a problem with the heating system.

I don't feel any air flow around my feet and at the same time I get only hot air from the dashboard eventhougt the temp. is set to 17-20. Is this a fault or am I doing something wrong ?

My climate settings.
Aircon = off
Auto = off
Air recirculation = off
fan speed = low to high
Temperature =18 degree
Flow = only to my feet

Cheers
Jan

Welcome to FF.

What it the direction set to? What do you think the problem is? As you don't make it very clear.

The direction is set down at the floor.

I think it's a problem I'm not able to get any air flow to the floor and feet area.

And I also think it's a problem that hot air keeps pumping out thru the wents eventhough the temperature display is set to 17-18 degrees. The outside temperature is around 0.

Hot air is normal, as you need not air to get 18C if its 0C.

Direction could be a fault.

Yes hot air is normal but I don't think the air should be very hot when set to 17 and the air inside the car is already over 20.

It does not matter if I set the display to 17 or 34 degree. The air is always hot. It should be regulated by the temperature set in the display eventhought Auto is off and the compressor is off.

kronsell said:

Yes hot air is normal but I don't think the air should be very hot when set to 17 and the air inside the car is already over 20.

It does not matter if I set the display to 17 or 34 degree. The air is always hot. It should be regulated by the temperature set in the display eventhought Auto is off and the compressor is off.

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How do you know its already over 20? If freeze point outside it takes a lot of heat to get the cabin to 20C, and maintain it. The temp you set isn't the temp that exits the vents, it's the desired temp of the cabin.

Not sure why you don't just set it to auto and let it do it's things

i'm guessing it's over 20. It's like a sauna in the car and im sweating like a pig. I have also tried auto but the heat keeps pumping out until I feel forced to shut it down before I die from heat.

Have you set it to minimum & full auto? That is the only setting guaranteed to pump cold air in - if it's still hot, there's definitely a problem.

I'm only getting cold in when it's set to LO, half auto.

I also find it strange that the compressor turns on in auto mode when I just wan't a little heat in the car. The super hot air is mixed with cold air to be cooled down in the car. The system should be able to heat a little.
I think I'll contact the dealer about this.

Your last post confirms the heat side sounds normal. Compressor coming on conditions the air, you seem to be of the incorrect assumption that this is only for cooling, which it is not.

The only fault I can see is possibly the directional controls.

You might be right. But it's strange nevertheless with all this constant heat. Is the compressor surposed to be turned on at all temperature settings over "lo" / "minimum" ?

Comepressor will always be operation when in auto or you've set it on manually, and the car deems the air temp going through the condenser to be high enough to prevent it from freezing over.

As I said, heat will always always come out hot if the temp selected is hotter than the current cabin temp, and visa versa with cold air coming it if cabin temp is higher than selected temp. Only time this will be different if you select HI or LO which will be max heat and max cold air.

Okay, i'll try some more tests in auto mode

There is a reason why its called "Automatic Climate Control" The clue is in the words. Let the unit do the work, if you take it off Automatic it does not work as well. With my Twinair when its on Auto the air con is on and I get very hot feet as that is where the unit pumps in the heat (Heat rises) to warm the cabin. If you do not run the Air con bit don't be surprised if you get a bill for a new compressor as that is one item on your car that will deteriorate if not worked regularly.

Okay, i just got the car this week. It was a demo car with 4000km on the counter so i don't have a clue how the aircon has been operated. Could the compressor be broken already ?

Shouldn't be with 4000Km on the clock. The way to check is set it to Auto and LO. If it blows Very cold then its working. The problem with working it manually is the unit doesn't regulate properly so you will not get proper temp control and if there is no air con it could get very hot very quickly. You'd be surprised how close the cabin gets to 18C (especially if its been sunny) without the heater on so it could be that is why its not putting out hot air.

Agree with scout500. Best to run climate control on auto, dial a temp & just leave it do its job....

I did n evening trip. I can confirm the compressor is working ok, but the direction control is odd. When i start the car and select auto and set 23 i now get heat in the lower vents which is okay an the direction controls are all off. If i select heat to the front it works too but if i then select heat to the lower vents i get nothing and heat in the front vents.

If i turn on auto again i still only get heat from the front vents and the heat keeps comming although the cabin feels hot. Im now not able to stop or redirect the heat in from vents unless i shut down the climatecontrol.
I dont know what to make of this right now ?

It of interest have you read the handbook? I know for my Bravo it gives a much better explanation of how to effectively use it than we probably can

Yes, i have read the handbook several times. I have owned and driven a lot of new cars but i have never experienced this bad heat control like this. I will contact Fiat about it.