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Italian Panda 2013 brochure with 4x4 and Trekking

I've just posted this in the 4x4 thread but thought it maybe of interest to others (including those thinking of the Trekking). I found this link to the Italian Panda brochure hopefully the UK version will be around any day now.

http://www.fiat.it/it/PublishingImag...ublication.pdf

I've also attached it to the posting in the 4x4 thread.

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Interesting.
And it seems the Italians lack their own words to express the concepts simply, more, design, quality, genius, everywhere, respect and creativity. Or does it just look better in English?
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Thanks for that. It's good to see some printed figures of fuel consumption of all the models.
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Re: Italian Panda 2013 brochure with 4x4 and Trekking

So will the Twin Air Trekking still emit less than 100 so that it gets in the London congestion charge zone for nothing ? even if it's got power windows and aircon ?
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So will the Twin Air Trekking still emit less than 100 so that it gets in the London congestion charge zone for nothing ? even if it's got power windows and aircon ?
Have a look at this thread.... Sorry....
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Have a look at this thread.... Sorry....
Beat me too it. Lol.
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So will the Twin Air Trekking still emit less than 100 so that it gets in the London congestion charge zone for nothing ? even if it's got power windows and aircon ?
the trekking TA emits 105 g/km so was outside of the current limit never mind the new limit. You'll have to pay or get an electric car.
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Re: Italian Panda 2013 brochure with 4x4 and Trekking

There's a fair bit of marketing hyperbole oozing across the pages - as you'd expect, but a bit worse than usual - largely trying to plug the designed for function theme, but including interesting references to (what I see as) the two most glaring external styling weaknesses, declaring them both to be strengths, of course - the "smiley" frontal aspect and the continuity in the line of the side windows so that it looks like one single piece of glass - unfortunately, unlike the Mk3, that is precisely what the new side aspect does not do. Methinks they do protest too much.

The 4x4 and Trekking have the Lounge list of features, including the height-adjustable driver's seat, plus heated external mirrors and all the transmission gizmos as standard, but without the option of upgrading the air con to climate control, which seems a weird and retrograde step.

The poor sod sitting in the back, using a laptop with his legs stretched out on the folded-forward front passenger seat would surely be excruciatingly uncomfortable and could suffer permanent knee ligament damage. It also looks as though that front seat could prevent (or at least doesn't help with) long thin items going through the hatch and forward into the passenger footwell, as discussed in another thread.

There's a lot of techie detail, including the effect of the ECO option on TwinAir engine output.
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I'd like the fold down passenger seat, though I don't think that is an option on the 4x4 or Trekking? Other than that, I'm looking to tick all the boxes, with the exception of side airbags as that prevents selecting the 5-seat option. I don't really need the 5 seats most of the time, however it will come in very handy every now and again.
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I'd like the fold down passenger seat, though I don't think that is an option on the 4x4 or Trekking? Other than that, I'm looking to tick all the boxes, with the exception of side airbags as that prevents selecting the 5-seat option. I don't really need the 5 seats most of the time, however it will come in very handy every now and again.
No - the Pack Flex 4 Posti - foldable into table passenger seat and split and to and fro movable rear seat is an option in the 4x4 and Trekking in the Italian brochure.
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Sorry - as is the 5 seat flexible set up - table front seat 60/40 split rear seat cargo box
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Hi - thanks very much for clarifying.

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Re: Italian Panda 2013 brochure with 4x4 and Trekking

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Sorry - as is the 5 seat flexible set up - table front seat 60/40 split rear seat cargo box
Thanks for the info there.

Word of advice for 4x4 Panda - when you come to order this, make sure you have a look at the prices for each individual component of the Flex Pack. In our Panda the 60/40 split rear seats, 5 seatbelts, cargo box and passenger table were all ordered as separate items. When I looked at the items included in the Flex Pack (at the time at least), it was actually cheaper to order the items separately.

Not sure if they have sorted this out or not but it might save you a bit of wedge!

Note: just checked the standard Panda and the Flex Pack is £500 with what looks like no more than £350 worth of individual options. Great work Fiat!
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Re: Italian Panda 2013 brochure with 4x4 and Trekking

Further to my post above, I thought I would try and have a look at the FIAT UK website for both the Trekking and 4x4 versions.

The Trekking content doesn't appear to be available at all; it is listed under the New Panda section below the Lounge, but whatever I tried doesn't work (I am using Google Chrome by the way).

The 4x4 section does seem to work, and there are two Flex options available at£500.

5-SEAT FLEX PACK - comes with 5 seat 60/40 split rear seats (£50), 3 rear seatbelts (£50), height adjustable drivers seat (£50), smoking kit (£50) and comfort kit (£100) = £300 worth of options.

FLEX PACK 1 - 4 seats with 50/50 sliding rear seat (£200), height adjustable drivers seat (£50), smoking kit (£50) and comfort kit (£100) = £400 worth of options.

What an utter shambles...
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Re: Italian Panda 2013 brochure with 4x4 and Trekking

Is the 'fold to table' passenger seat mentioned?

All these little idiosyncrasies are why i want to see FIAT actually commit themselves to a printed brochure BEFORE I place an order...

I'm guessing that will be 6 months away, as they have rather missed out on this winter!
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