General Gear box oile seal

[Bougainvillea Rosso]

When I filled up the transmission oil on the 4x4 I discovered why it was low in the first place! the near side gear box oil seal is gone. I've got a garage hunting around for one but without luck at the minute - apparently they can't get one from Fiat Does anyone have a suggestion of who I might get in touch with for one of these?

Ta

 

[Alan.D]

Could you post a pic of what part you mean please.

 

[Lesnewell]

Do you mean the driveshaft oil seal? It is part of the CV boot. Boots are available from any decent motor factor.

 

[Nuova500]

or, do you mean the driveshaft bearing with integral seal? what year of panda is it as Fiat changed the design from the seal in boot to seal in bearing around 1991/2 I think. I bought two bearings this year from Desira in Diss.

 

[Bougainvillea Rosso]

It's 1987. There is oil leaking out from under the nearside gaiter that's next to the gearbox. So, yes, on the front drive shaft. (forgive my general ignorance). I thought the gaiter itself was packed with grease and that the oil seal is actually on the gearbox itself hence the leak is coming from there? Sorry I don't have a picture.

 

[Lesnewell]

The boot holds in the gearbox oil. It is quite common for them to split and leak. As far as I know all the 4x4s use the same boots. I recently bought an off-side boot made by First Line. The part number is FCB 2440. If you give that number to the motor factor and tell them you want the near side one they should be able to find the correct part pretty quickly.

 

[Tony M]

i am kinda curious as to what the differences are left from right...?

I got a couple knocking around... one for the inside one for the wheel end... just wondered why you can stick them on either side really...

 

[petebarchetta]

on the same topic what part code from the motor factors is the passenger gaiter?? which i think is the same side as his above
i need to get one for my K plate but the motor factors show 5!!! for the same car all with different part numbers. Some of the gaiters have bearings in and others just have the seal
any help would be appreciated

 

[Lesnewell]

I think the end that fits on to the g/box is different. Just had a look at mine. For some reason it is supplied with a packet of CV grease

 

[Lesnewell]

Some of the gaiters have bearings in and others just have the seal

Fiat changed the design several times. The only way to be absolutely sure is to take yours off and compare it. My local factors were kind enough to let me have a couple of different ones on sale-or-return.

 

[totnesmonster]

Mine had an early '87 gearbox on it with just the plain bush and oil seals, which leaked like sieves.

I changed them for the later type with the integrated bearing with the seals which are better, but to use the same driveshafts a spacing collar has to go on before the bearing+boot. It might be easier to get a good second hand shaft complete from a scrappy, as long as the seals are working still.

 

[default_user]

Tony:

i am kinda curious as to what the differences are left from right...?

At the gearbox end:

Drivers side gaiter is held against the face of the gearbox housing by a plate with three bolts.

Passenger side gaiter fits over a flange and is held on with a big jubilee clip around the edge.

 

[Tony M]

Drivers side gaiter is held against the face of the gearbox housing by a plate with three bolts.

i definately haven't got one like that... so i must have both ends of the passenger side.

 

[Bougainvillea Rosso]

The gaiter looks like it's in good shape though with no visible splits.

 

[Alan.D]

The bearing leaks as well as the rubber if it's shot.

 

[Bougainvillea Rosso]

The boot holds in the gearbox oil. It is quite common for them to split and leak. As far as I know all the 4x4s use the same boots. I recently bought an off-side boot made by First Line. The part number is FCB 2440. If you give that number to the motor factor and tell them you want the near side one they should be able to find the correct part pretty quickly.

Thanks for this. Is your Panda the the earlier 965 engine 4x4 as I've looked on First Line's website and that part no refers to that? Mine's a 999.

 

[Bougainvillea Rosso]

If your're interested the part no I've ordered from First Line - THANKS! - is FCB 2577. I think this is the right one for and '87 4x4. If it's not, then I've only wasted £3 and someone else can have it!

BTW, First Line have a fully searchable website:

http://www.firstline.co.uk/index.html

 

[Lesnewell]

Thanks for this. Is your Panda the the earlier 965 engine 4x4 as I've looked on First Line's website and that part no refers to that? Mine's a 999.

I have one 965 and one 999. They both have the same boots.

 

[Bougainvillea Rosso]

I have one 965 and one 999. They both have the same boots.

That's weird, because according to First Line they have different part nos. This might mean that I have the wrong one on the way