pandafan said:

Thank you for that !
How come you have Sisely stuff that I haven't ?

...but I have now !:devil:

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Panda4x4net said:

Other thing, sisley have Steyr Puch transmission.

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Lesnewell said:

All Panda 4x4s have Steyr Puch designed transmission. Steyr Puch seem to have had a hand in the transmission of most European 4x4s:
Merc G-wagen, Panda 4x4, Later Land Rovers, Many VW Syncro transmissions etc. I believe they also did the Subaru Justy.

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Panda4x4net said:

Only Sisley models and later, it's why the others loose the Streyr Puch badge.

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Lesnewell said:

My Panda 4x4 (not Sisley) had a Steyr Puch badge. There is no difference between Mk2 Panda 4x4 and Sisley transmissions. The earlier box is slightly different but was still designed by Steyr Puch. Taken from Wikipedia:

The Austrian company, Steyr-Puch, developed a four wheel drive system for the next addition to the range, the Panda 4x4. Launched in June 1983, it was powered by a 965 cc engine with 48 bhp (36 kW) derived from that in the Autobianchi A112. Known simply as the Panda 4x4, this model was the first small, transverse-engined production car to have a 4WD system. The system itself was manually selectable, with an ultra-low first gear. Under normal conditions starting was from second, with the fifth having the same ratio as fourth in the normal Panda. Steyr-Puch supplied the entire drivetrain (clutch, gearbox, power take-off, three-piece propshaft, rear axle inc diff and brakes) to the plant at Termini Imerese where it was fitted to the reinforced bodyshell.

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pandafan said:

JEEEZ ,... did you swallow the textbok my friend ?

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The 4x4 drive-system in the Sisely is by Puch-Styer

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and was taken as a complete unit from the ( A.U., Audi. ) 'Halflinger'.

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Lesnewell said:

Nope - cut and paste from Wikipedia


Yes. As I mentioned before all Panda 4x4s are by Steyr Puch. Mechanically they are all virtually the same (The Mk1 box is slightly different to fit the different engine).


That isn't possible. <anorak on> The Haflinger had a central spine chassis with the engine in the back and drive going down the middle of the spine to the two diffs (both lockable). The suspension was swing axle with portal hubs, similar to earlier VW buses. There is no way that system could be converted to fit a Panda <anorak off> Haflingers are absolutely incredible off road and I want one :devil:

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chadd123 said:

great pics,what a great club, but does anyone use there panda 4x4 for what it was made for,these pandas really do go anywere

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Lesnewell said:

Yup. The only thing that lets them down is ground clearance. A good bash plate on the front helps (keep it light). You can raise the front suspension about 20mm by fitting a spacer under the springs. If you fit a spacer between the strut and the wing you can gain a little more but if you go over about 10mm then you run the risk of damaging the drive shafts and inner CVs.

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Lesnewell said:

Yup. The only thing that lets them down is ground clearance. A good bash plate on the front helps (keep it light). You can raise the front suspension about 20mm by fitting a spacer under the springs. If you fit a spacer between the strut and the wing you can gain a little more but if you go over about 10mm then you run the risk of damaging the drive shafts and inner CVs.

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