General Changing/Testing Thermostat

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General Changing/Testing Thermostat

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The thermostat contains a temperature sensitive material that opens and closes a valve which in turn controls the flow of coolant from the engine. This ensures optimum operating temperature is maintained within the engine.

Possible symptoms of a faulty thermostat:
a) Engine not reaching correct working temperature (thermostat not closing properly or missing altogether).
b)Overheating (not opening fully).

The thermostat is not available independently of the housing.

Suggested tools:
10mm socket, short extension, ratchet, broad scraper + new gasket.
(to check existing thermostat: long nose pliers, pan/kettle, thermometer) - see below.

If fitting a new thermostat check that gasket is included.

If wishing to re-use the engine coolant drain (via bottom hose) and set aside. Check general condition of top hose and decide on condition before proceeding (a good time to check all hoses and clips).

The thermostat housing is located below the distributor - access is good with spare wheel and jack removed.

Remove the 2*10mm bolts securing housing. If housing doesn't come away, a sharp hand-tap should break seal between housing and block. Expect coolant loss.
Undo hose clip to release housing (now easier to get at). Check for deposits inside end of hose (photo1) and around lip of housing which causes pitting - also check for cracks and/or brittleness in hose.
Use a broad blunt scraper to remove any old gasket from machined surface on block. (photo2: part of big bulldog clip used as improvised scraper)

The gasket supplied with my replacement thermostat was self adhesive on one side (photo3) - be sure to line it up right 1st time. If unsure use a pen or something through one hole as guide. If your gasket is not self adhesive use a little grease to hold it in place. (photo4)
If re-using your old thermostat scrape all traces of old gasket from the mating surface before fitting new one.

If you didn't drain down the engine flick some of the water out of the head and wipe dry the mating surface. When re-assembling (if using 1/2" drive) hold ratchet halfway along handle so as not to overtighten bolts. Remember to refit hose clip before replacing hose onto housing - add a little grease or waxoyl to aid future removal. Don't overtighten hose clip - just enough to nip it up.

Now's a good time to 'reverse flush' the system. Remove the hose from the heater to the inlet manifold. As the return hose on mine is moulded onto the top hose I pushed the hose into the end of this and waited until clean water came out of the hose removed from the manifold. Then held the hose pipe to the inlet manifold union until clear water came from the top hose.

Work out how much antifreeze/corrosion inhibitor to add. By personal choice I avoid 50/50 mixture as anti-freeze has seeking properties and aim for around 25-33% mixture (approx 1.3 - 1.7ltrs) If you live in a hard water consider using de-mineralised water.

Top up expansion reservoir and start engine. As engine warms open heater valve (control lever to max.) and put heater fan on full. Help force out any trapped air by squeezing bottom hose. Open bleed vent located in heater hose behind carb to allow any further trapped air to escape. Re-tighten finger tight.
Caution: When working on a hot engine be aware of radiator cooling fan switching on.
 

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WOW, thats brilliant!

Ive suspected there was a problem with the 'stat' in my Panda, but wasnt sure how to diagnose and /or fix it.

Many thanks for this post, I may have a crack at it at the weekend!

Ian.
 
Testing Thermostat:
Heat sufficient water to submerge housing - stat should open at specified temp. and should be fully open before water comes to boil. Remove and blow on unit - it should immediately begin to close again. Mine wasn't seating properly ('A' on photo and arrowed in last photo from other side), which resulted in temp. only reaching around 70 degs (should be near 90)
Check that the small bleed valve ('B' in photo) in the housing is free from any sediment build up.
(Photos: opening temperatures stamped 88C on stat or cast in housing 87C)
 

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great minds think alike, as i put in a thread in LL about how to test the thermostat :). i know about these things as my mams Renault 19 doesnt have any heating, and i took out the thermostat for testing on tuesday, and then changed the coolant. sadly the car still doesnt have heating :cry:

also great 'how to' guide, and i am sure this will help many panda owners (y)
 
christopher watson said:
great minds think alike, as i put in a thread in LL about how to test the thermostat :). i know about these things as my mams Renault 19 doesnt have any heating, and i took out the thermostat for testing on tuesday, and then changed the coolant. sadly the car still doesnt have heating :cry:

also great 'how to' guide, and i am sure this will help many panda owners (y)


look for two hoses going into the bulkhead... disconnect and use a hose pipe to flush between them.. i do it, forwards.. the backwards a few times.. and finish up doing forwards untill water is clear.
 
"i just got mine from my local fiat dealer £15 with vat.."
Unfortunately the dealers is a 30m round trip for me! ...and then lost time from work costs... :( mine was £14.75 from local factors and convenient - but non genuine of course

I can't see why it isn't available without the housing as it can be unclipped and removed. Though I suspect it's because a centering pin (stainless steel on mine) slides back and for in a hole in the housing and being alloy wears and enlarges the hole thus affecting the centralising (?)

Re: reverse flushing (Chris's Mams Renault?) the valve to the heater matrix needs to be fully open of course and an air lock on refilling would prevent proper circulation

Thanks all for the positive feedback btw :) - now working on the write-up of the timing belt replacement - got it nearly finished yesterday morning and my mouse packed up resulting in losing all the unsaved extra :mad: - which was most of it :eek:
 
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