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Re: Brian the BFP (Big Friendly Panda)- 1988 Sisley 4X4

Risers to give more ground clearance?
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Risers to give more ground clearance?

Sorry no points there

Try again !!
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Re: Brian the BFP (Big Friendly Panda)- 1988 Sisley 4X4

getting the arches flared/rolled whatever its called these days?
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No sorry on points yet

3 more goes !!!
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Re: Brian the BFP (Big Friendly Panda)- 1988 Sisley 4X4

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No sorry on points yet

3 more goes !!!
Im stumped!
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Re: Brian the BFP (Big Friendly Panda)- 1988 Sisley 4X4

Ok Moved rear axle back 30mm to allow for full profile tyres.
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Im stumped!

Created long wheel base panda !!
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Re: Brian the BFP (Big Friendly Panda)- 1988 Sisley 4X4

I moved the axle only 10mm to the back, the same cause, but smaller wheels. 185-14 aggresve wheels will destroy the gearbox{ few even small offroad jumps with wheels not touching the ground for just a sec. and while landing/touchng the ground again with gas pedal still engaged the tensions between wheels movng free and those with grip will kill/mill something ,the same story while crawlng on 1st with gas pedal on in deep mud, with some object in the mud that suddenly gives a grip/traction to one of the wheels, there is no central diferential mechanism between axles in panda } . From my/my friends experience any wheel bigger than 60cm {in diameter} will soon cause the gearbox cover or flange to explode or the propshaft to twist be prepared=start gathering spare parts

ps: all those mishaps with bigger wheels combined with 1.2 8v punto engine.

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I moved the axle only 10mm to the back, the same cause, but smaller wheels. 185-14 aggresve wheels will destroy the gearbox{ few even small offroad jumps with wheels not touching the ground for just a sec. and while landing/touchng the ground again with gas pedal still engaged the tensions between wheels movng free and those with grip will kill/mill something ,the same story while crawlng on 1st with gas pedal on in deep mud, with some object in the mud that suddenly gives a grip/traction to one of the wheels, there is no central diferential mechanism between axles in panda } . From my/my friends experience any wheel bigger than 60cm {in diameter} will soon cause the gearbox cover or flange to explode or the propshaft to twist be prepared=start gathering spare parts

ps: all those mishaps with bigger wheels combined with 1.2 8v punto engine.

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Well if a viscous coupling inserted in the drive train will deminish shock loading on the rear axel as there is no central differential we think
There are many 4x4 rally pandas out there ,where a viscous coupling must be employed. ???
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Re: Brian the BFP (Big Friendly Panda)- 1988 Sisley 4X4

I'm aware of one rally 4x4 (R.Thiel) and Si is 4x4ing his turbo Marbella.
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I'm aware of one rally 4x4 (R.Thiel) and Si is 4x4ing his turbo Marbella.

This was our thought about the increase in torque of 35% at the wheel
Circumference design of the original system would probably allowed for 150% in design calcs. An un damaged prop no scoring from rocks or dents therefore should not fail ,the loading on the box are more critical
Pandik fitted over size wheels probably larger and wider than 185 r14


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Re: Brian the BFP (Big Friendly Panda)- 1988 Sisley 4X4

All valid points! And worth exploring. A family member of ours also runs his Styer Puch Haflinger on the same tyres, he seems to think we should be okay.

Plus we have plenty of spares
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Handbrake set up has been progressed.

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This was our thought about the increase in torque of 35% at the wheel
Circumference design of the original system would probably allowed for 150% in design calcs. An un damaged prop no scoring from rocks or dents therefore should not fail ,the loading on the box are more critical
Pandik fitted over size wheels probably larger and wider than 185 r14


Discuss !!!

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Who dares wins !!!

Pandik tyres were 195 80 r14.
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