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The home made spit working well it's damm easy all welds down hand ?!!!
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Cut out the rot then make a new bit grind weld then grind ! Best panel beating skill employed
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Next week will be a full face transplant
From our twin blue Sisley , followed by 35 mm engine drop then a further 25 mm lift front and 50mm rear dropping U. J. 20 mm Going to get the tank sand blasted then plastic coated best opinion . Punto 1242 carb engine lined up evil panda on the way !!
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Excellent work really making progress!
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Two set of sills fixed. The MIG Welding could be better but I have two more to practice on after this, and it's stronger than ever. Maybe opt for gas instead of flux core next time.

Coated with red oxide primer inside and out, to be followed up with cavity wax once it's back on its wheels.

Excited to get to business on the doors with my far superior TIG welding skills, that's if I think I can salvage them.

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... followed by 35 mm engine drop then a further 25 mm lift front and 50mm rear dropping U. J. 20 mm

Just be careful with the lift. Ideally both front and rear should be raised by the same amount - if not you might open Pandora box
i.e. under/over steering, amplified body roll and squat during braking if the rear end will seat much higher.


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Just be careful with the lift. Ideally both front and rear should be raised by the same amount - if not you might open Pandora box
i.e. under/over steering, amplified body roll and squat during braking if the rear end will seat much higher.


Looking forward to see further progress.
I think he will be fine..

1. The rear always sits higher even under power - better to level it up.

2. For off-roading having the front sitting higher is always a better thing.

3. The standard gearbox flange on the near side should take a minimal lift fine - but don't go over 25mm or disaster!

4. The install of a larger (heavier) engine will probably drop it back down a bit. This WILL encourage more understeer in corners though and as Jacob states, lift-off over steer due to light weight rear end and solid axel on leaf springs!

Keep the updates coming
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I think he will be fine..

Keep the updates coming
The engine droop does make me wonder a bit, Vmac done it but it was on Bucket so cosmetic lift, Tibor done it on pandik but lift was over 3 inch.


As Andy said, clearance under sump guard is key factor, there is hardly enough space to drop engine by 8mm keeping the sump guard at std position.


Let's wait for the shells to be finished/solid and after that we can guide you through.
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The plan is lift all tie rod swinging arms and struts 30mm adjusting the top centre of the struts to correct castor angle before any further lift a higher rear end will require a brake unloading valve lowering the central cv / uJs will prevent U.j wear at the diff a protective skid plate will cover this. Also looking into raising steering ball joints connection up 30 to prevent a clash with the body. Any one else with any other issues that might create problems would very helpful
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To alter the caster angle you'll need to drill out the top mounting bolt hole on the hub carrier. Don't lift more than 25 mm on the front or you will smash the nearside drive shaft input flange. Jacob has done a good method using different ball joints, see his thread for details.
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Yes I do agree we are attempting a body lift so every connection to engine and suspension will requre. 30mm SV
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Yes I do agree we are attempting a body lift so every connection to engine and suspension will requre. 30mm SV
So this will be for "the look" only?

If the engine and box will be droped the g/box flange should be fine, but the lower arm mounting points would have to be extended as well.
You should not be worried about the UJ at the diff end, wedge spacers will keep rear axle at correct angle.
Safety first.
Focus on the rust threatment for now as lifting panda is wide subject.
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