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Does anyone know if the front springs and shock absorbers from a Panda 4x4 will fit on a 4x2? I wish to increase the ride height of my 2WD Panda to use in car trials, any advice would be appreciated. Its a 1990 model with the Omega beam rear suspension. Thanks.
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Aye, bolt away, they're exactly the same car from the B post forward....

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Jim,
Thanks for that, I thought they should fit, but I also have been lead to believe that the hub carrier (ie the part with the lower ball joint pressed in) and the hub were different. Don't suppose you happen to have a pair of springs/shockers that you want to sell?
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Re: Panda front suspension

The difference is that the 4x4 shockers have bigger holes for the bolts connecting the pillar so you may need to drill the pillars' holes wider in order to fit the M10(are they?) bolts to the 4x2 pillar


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or buy the 4x4 pillars

I paid about 100 quid each side but they were cheaper on ebay....

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Re: Panda front suspension

As I know...and checked it twice with my 4x4 friends...
shock absorbers in 4x4 (front) are longer(higher)!! (springs may be different as well)
So it could be not good for 2x4 to fit them from 4x4!!
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Re: Panda front suspension

would be very silly thing to do also as you'd blind all on coming drivers at night having a higher front and lower rear end.

Jim, you mentioned buying some off of eBay, were these a one off or is there a listing I keep missing? Just my Sisley needs two new front ones, and I'm not looking forward to the price (trying to put it off as long as I can)

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Re: Panda front suspension

Quote Originally Posted by KevinAlexLB View Post
Does anyone know if the front springs and shock absorbers from a Panda 4x4 will fit on a 4x2? I wish to increase the ride height of my 2WD Panda to use in car trials, any advice would be appreciated. Its a 1990 model with the Omega beam rear suspension. Thanks.
https://www.fiatforum.com/panda-clas...6-pillars.html

I hope this explains the difference in a bit more detail.
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Hi Pandaki, thanks for the info, if the bolts are bigger on 4x4 they must be 12mm as 4x2 bolts are 10mm.
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Hi Jon, take your point but I'm intending to raise the rear as well. Re pillars, Ricambio International have 4x4 for 65 and 4x2 for 28.50, they have site on Ebay, just do a searh for "Panda ball joint". But try Interparts in Houslow - tel 020 8572 2217, contact Hani, I've just bought some parts from him, he's really helpful. If the only difference is the bolt size you could buy the 4x2 ones and drill them out!
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Rear pillars/shocks are different fit due to compleatly rear axels, so check that they'll fit before getting any other ones Because I don't think they will.
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Yes the old forum thread helps. Ride height on 4x4 will be higher so makes sense that pillar will need to be a different angle so camber angle is correct. Part nos for springs, shockers and pillar are all different so I would assume that springs and shockers are longer, which makes sense. Thanks everyone for your help. Next question - has anybody got a set of 4x4 springs and shockers they want to sell?!! I can raise the rear by getting new longer springs made!
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Yes, the rear suspension is completely different on 4x2 and 4x4 - although (and I am guessing here!) the original Panda 4x2 had a live rear axle so springs/shockers at the back could be similar to 4x4. My 4x2 has the later "Omega" beam set-up at the rear so would expect everything to be different.
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Yes, the rear suspension is completely different on 4x2 and 4x4 - although (and I am guessing here!) the original Panda 4x2 had a live rear axle so springs/shockers at the back could be similar to 4x4. My 4x2 has the later "Omega" beam set-up at the rear so would expect everything to be different.
Rear shocks have a different mounting point in 4x4 and 4x2 on the leaf spring/rear axle. Omega is another thing, as you say
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Hi Pandaki, thanks for the info, if the bolts are bigger on 4x4 they must be 12mm as 4x2 bolts are 10mm.
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