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Old 26-07-2004   #16
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Sainsburys still do LRP (my route to work) was the so ill use LRP 50:50 with unleaded for now.

Probably why the bloke thought it was pinking - as he only used unleaded. Also all of the sparks were oily, and two had grity deposits on them! [:0]:(

Not now though - fresh NGK's and a bit of copper anti sealant on the threads etc.
Also they were in way too tight.

Morris on unleaded sounds a nightmare - what are you going to do once LRP is gone?

Just driven about a bit- :D:D:D:D:D

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Old 26-07-2004   #17
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Roadsterchinsk - Glad to hear that everything is working out :) The 156A30000 number you refer to on the plate (that should be on the driver's side of the bonnet slam plate) is a version number and isn't the engine number. It's nothing to worry about [^]

John - The production date thing is a default reading if for whatever reason, the disc doesn't know B) But the majority of the time, it's correct.

You're probably correct about the FIRE engines being designed for unleaded, since they appeared around the same time as the new fuel.

However, I'd be inclined to stick with LRP, since it's an older engine (at 16 years old) and would benefit from valve lubrication.

FWIW, my 903 - although a non-FIRE engine that harks back to the 1950s - always runs best on Murco or Jet LRP. Esso's was good too, but they stopped selling it :( She doesn't like Texaco's LRP, and isn't all that impressed with unleaded from any vendor, although still runs alright with it every now and again.

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Morris on unleaded sounds a nightmare - what are you going to do once LRP is gone?
Not a problem:
unleaded plus additive (Castrol valvemaster, in my case) is what it already uses - OK for sensible use.

There are a number of separate issues, going from "leaded 4 star" to unleaded:
1 loss of octane/RON - timing has vernier screw fine adjustment
2 loss of valve seat protection - I don't run it flat out for hours on a motorway, and use an additive.

If/when I do wear the seats out (I understand the valves weld to the seats in localised hot spots, and when it breaks apart you slowly loose the seat metal - the valves need adjusting, and one day you run out of seat, or adjustment) I can get an "unleaded" head with harder seats.
The problem is exacerbated by high speed running.

Your pinking may be a timing/octane issue - which you could prove with a tankfull of Optimax, or other "super" unleaded.
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It didnt seem to pink at all on the way back from filling with cheap sainsburys LRP.

Ive always been an optimax diehard since i tried it in my roadster (which has to have super and good super at that).

Ill see how it goes.

I need to read up on timingfor my Panda.
Ive only previously encountered a cam angle sensor system and ive no idea how to set it yet.
Maybe a job for the comig weekend as the Panda doesnt start regular service until next week.

:p;)

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I need to read up on timing for my Panda.
Ive only previously encountered a cam angle sensor system and ive no idea how to set it yet.
Maybe a job for the comig weekend as the Panda doesnt start regular service until next week.
Ask if your copy of Haynes/Porter hasn't arrived by then.

BTW you will need to buy, beg, or borrow a timing light - adjustment is by slackening the distributor mounting bolts ( 2 x 10mm A/F ) and rotating the whole body a bit..


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Re: Panda manual - 4x4 service parts?

I have a 4x4 manual for my Sisley, if you need any further help, give me a shout.

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