Technical Indicator relay for Siena/Palio 1.2

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Technical Indicator relay for Siena/Palio 1.2

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Just to let everyone know, the relay for the indicators/hazardlights is on the underside of the steering column. Three screws hold the cover in place, and when it's off, the relay is a little blue cube, about 3x3x3cm. Insert a thin screwdriver blade under to lever it out gently. The replacement just pushes in - a real doddle! :mad: )
 
Do I need to remove the horn pad, the steering nut and the combination switch to get to it?
 
Thanks for the nudge, varesecrazy! I did it this morning and have taken pics from my camera and mobile. Please give me a day and I'll write a detailed post. There are one or two things I found not so straightforward for a novice and I'll share them. As of now, I'm gloating and have decided on a mid-day rum'n'coke before I start off on other errands. If anyone is trying it today, please take care and DO NOT use force. There's a spring locking mechanism that you don't want to break :)
 
unlikely..;)

just remove the plastic cowlings..,

try and take a photo or 2 ,(y)

as it would appear nobody else has done this jobs since 2009:D

charlie

Hi all

Palio Weekend 1.0 16V 2001 here....

I have got a problem with my turning / indicator relay. The sound it makes is so faint that I often don't notice it is still on, which is quite dangerous in my opinion!

I did a fair amount of research into the matter prior to coming across this post.

So, I popped the steering wheel cover off but I can't find the relay anywhere! Nothing along the steering wheel shaft, nothing under the steering wheel and nothing alongside the indicator stick.

When I turn the hazard lights / indicators on I hear the clicking sound that seems to come from the BACK of the fuse box? How that even possible? (how inconvenient) :bang:

I would like to check what you guys think before dismantling it!

Please see photos

Many thanks
 
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Thanks for the nudge, varesecrazy! I did it this morning and have taken pics from my camera and mobile. Please give me a day and I'll write a detailed post. There are one or two things I found not so straightforward for a novice and I'll share them. As of now, I'm gloating and have decided on a mid-day rum'n'coke before I start off on other errands. If anyone is trying it today, please take care and DO NOT use force. There's a spring locking mechanism that you don't want to break :)

any luck with those photo's.,:)
 
cybertronix,
it's actually MORE common to find the indicator relay attached to the interior fuseboard,

IF you can get access to the "front" of it, a finger on it whilst its active should feel it "clicking" as well as bleeping,

a new relay could be all you need.

I suspect the "palio " is like the punto - has run through various body styles / types over several generations..,with regional variations also..

As we are a UK based forum - where the Palio was never released - we've only had the 1 basic section for the Palio, never listing the Siena , Duna, etc

please do let us know where you eventually find the relay, and a little access advice for future readers would be very helpful too,
thanks,
Charlie
 
varesecrazy

Thanks for the reply!

OK, so I took another look while the hazard light were on and followed the "clicking" sound to the fuse box (lower left and side of the dashboard). I put my finger on the large cube (see photo) and the clicking sound kinda seemed to be coming from there, although I also placed my finger on other parts of the fuseboard and could also feel "clicking" (never heard / felt any "beeping" though).

1) I removed the cube but the hazard lights and indicators continued working.

2) So now I wonder if I have to REMOVE the fuseboard and take a look behind it?
 

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Follow these instructions carefully.

Just feel your way down from the steering to the bottom of the car. This conduit like plastic piece is called a steering cover, lower.

Now if you kneel and look up at this, you'll find there are three screw fasteners holding it to the housing, two towards the top and one on mid bottom. Remove them with a star screw driver and take the cover off.

Now you'll see a blue relay just under the horn assembly that needs to be tickled out. Be careful - there is a clip inside on the left hand side so it comes out with a knack and not brute force. Find the way to do it. Nudging from the right and pulling out is what I think I did. If you break the clip, the relay wont sit firmly the next time you insert it (with a "click"). Don't get scared, try it, and you'll be fine after a bucket of sweat .:)

ANOTHER WORD OF CAUTION!!!

As your indicators and hazard are working, there could be nothing wrong with the indicator relay. My left indicator didn't work and the workshop said that I should change the combination switch that costs a small packet. I studied it carefully for all idiosyncrasies. eg, it stopped or started working when I revved. Then, after careful consideration of common factors, we discovered that the earthing in the rear left tail lamp was improper. Tightly knocking it to restore connection made the whole thing ok at zero cost. What's interesting is that the Fiat Palio seems to have a life of its own; I don't know about the little brother Punto and Linea. But it sure is alive, and I, in turn, am sure I'm not whipping a dead horse :)

I have also added a 99rpm link only to show you how this cover looks and how it could come off. I'd like to mention here that this is a fantastic site and gave a new lease of life to my lovely eleven year old car.
 

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Hi Lapis76

Nice walk thru!

Unfortunately, I don't have a relay there... my Palio is from 2001, what about yours?

Also, I'm in Brazil and there is always the possibility of it being a regional thing.
 
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So, yesterday I unscrewed my fuse board and found a relay of sorts attached to some wires behind the board. I'm not sure if this is the relay I need to swap? I noticed it had 4 connector pins and the replacement unit I have has only 3, so I left it alone.

I've attached a photo of the part in question, it seems to be an auxiliary relay of some sorts, but I'm not sure what its exact function is.

STILL, when I turned on my hazards I noticed it didn't make any clicking sounds - the clicking sounds were seemingly coming from INSIDE the fuse board itself (I couldn't pin point the source exactly).

 
Hi Lapis76

Nice walk thru!

Unfortunately, I don't have a relay there... my Palio is from 2001, what about yours?

Also, I'm in Brazil and there is always the possibility of it being a regional thing.


I live in India and mine is a 2005 model. Nice to know of people like you (us) who stick with their old horses! :)
 
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