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Old 05-11-2009   #1
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fiat engine identification

hi, i have found a 600 with this engine fitted, its not a runner.

its bolted up to the 600 box and has the exhaust manifold in place.

its OHV not OHC, theres a spin on oil filter where the fuel pump would have been, the fuel pump is mounted on the timing chain cover, at an angle, as if the engine would have been tilted in the car its from, theres a small water pump mounted on the lower rh side when viewed from behind the car.

on the oil filter side cast into the block is 100GL FIAT

on the other side are these numbers 4387324, 1057, 7D22,

does anyone have any idea what this is? a 127 903cc block maybe?.....

thanks.....
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Yes it's a Fiat 127 903cc ohv engine - these started with 100GL.000

Not seen one in a 600 before but they quite often ended up in 850's with the necessary modifications.

Good luck with the car

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Re: fiat engine identification

thanks for the info....does this engine run the right way for the 600 box?...as its a non runner with half shafts removed and little in the way of wiring i have no chance of 'firing t up' before i commit to buy. the guy who owns is chinese (im in malaysia) and has no idea of what engine it is or if it runs the right way.

i have another very good 2 owner 600d, id like to rebuiled this motor and fit it to my good one. ta
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Don't know enough about the 600 I'm afraid. I know the 903cc engine runs the opposite way round to the 850 engine, so I'd guess the 600 is the same.

There will be folk on the Fiat Motor Club forum who will be able to answer this if you don't get a reply on here. There are more members with the older cars on that forum generally speaking.

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Gavin thanks for your help......i'll try and check it out somemore, id heard the 903 127 motor runs the right way for the 600 box, its only the 850 series that run backwards i think. this is definetly not an 850 series block so i MIGHT be in luck !! by UK standards the car is cheap at RM 1500, that = 300 but towing to my place is another 1000RM.......

theres not much in the way of info down here, but suprisingly quiet a few 1960/70's fiats about...
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Re: fiat engine identification

You're in luck . The 127 903 engine runs the right way for the 600 box. It's only the 850 engine that runs backwards, but its not that difficult to change direction. Just change the camshaft and waterpump and you are up and running.
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Re: fiat engine identification

thanks for the info.....so all other 127 engines are OHC right? just the 903 is OHV....now will a later 127 engine, say 1050 OHC run the right way for the 600 box?.....

sorry to ask such dumb questions but im more a 126 guy...
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Only 903 engines will fit the 600 box. The later 1050 OHC is a totally different engine block and therefore doesn't fit.
But if you really want an exciting engine try out the Autobianca/Lancia A112 engine. There was an Abarth 965 OHV engine based on the same block as the 600D/850/903. Then you have a really fun car
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mmnn yea i saw an article on that coversion some time back, but here in asia thats an exotic engine to find !!! even the 903 engine ive found has a lot of guys here shocked !!!.....
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