hi all my grandad in the end chose a VW Golf Mk5 automatic (instead of an alfa, dam) (i think it's a 1.4) but when he rang me last he said it just stalled or cut out just wondering how can u stall an automatic???? or is there more than there seems to this??

it wont be stalling, it will be cutting out. it is likely to be the crank sensor, but there are many possibilities. with more info about the circumstances a better diagnosis may be possible.

all he said was that he was sitting at the traffic lights stationary went to move off in drive and it stalled/cut out, this car is only a week old!!!! jesus might have to tell him and see if it happens again/or has happened again

i knew he should of bought an alfa

Ninja59 said:

all he said was that he was sitting at the traffic lights stationary went to move off in drive and it stalled/cut out, this car is only a week old!!!! jesus might have to tell him and see if it happens again/or has happened again

i knew he should of bought an alfa

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Is it brand spanking new?

It is possible to stall an auto, but not really modern type ones.

I have stalled my Auto Panda 3 times in the 12months I've been driving it. Mine isn't a conventional auto, and so has an electronic clutch, now not going into much detail, but each time it has stalled is when doing emergency stops in the wet, where both front wheels lock up and the clutch isn't disenguaged in time, hence the engine stalls.

Just pop it into N, restart and off one goes

Sorry to have gone off topic, but yes, as mentioned above, could be crank shaft sensor, or some sort of fueling problem where the car isn't fueling properly as he moves off and the engine goes from an idle to laboured state

Jon.

yep brand spanking new golf 58 reg, i think it's the DSG version from what i understand and a 1.4 130bhp version sport GT or something along those lines

oh its a DSG!! in that case stalling is not uncommon, actually its a pretty well known issue. it only happens when the engine is cold, and often if it has been idling for a few mins. it will start to hunt at idle, then when you try to pull away in D it stalls. i dont know what the soution is, but i do know that VW dealers are unable to help, and letting the car get up to temperature before you start your journey can prevent it from happening.

thanks jug and yes the only automatic box they do now is the DSG, so i can only assume it is, can i ask how u know VW dealers no good??? bit rubbish letting it get upto temp sounds like something from the 60's lol

there are many forum threads saying the dealer was unable to help, and no threads at all saying the dealer could do help. thats never a good sign.

i will tell him when i speak to him next thanks for help!!!

I don't think modern autos are anywhere near as good as they used to be Fiat's modern Dual-logic's are crap, and it sounds like VW's are no better

They're all made for econimy and reduced carbon footprint now, and not durability unfortunatly.

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I don't think modern autos are anywhere near as good as they used to be

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dual-logic and DSG arent automatics, they have solenoid operated clutch and gear selection, but they are manual transmissions. that is a large part of the problem- making a computer program that can perform the same automatic adjustment to any situation (which a human does without even thinking about it).

jug said:

dual-logic and DSG arent automatics, they have solenoid operated clutch and gear selection, but they are manual transmissions. that is a large part of the problem- making a computer program that can perform the same automatic adjustment to any situation (which a human does without even thinking about it).

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Agreeded. The conventonal auto is almost extinct. And the only reason why they have these Solenoid operated clutch and gear selection rather than a conventional auto is so the car is in a lower emmissions tax band and preforms better MPG on paper

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lower emmissions tax band and preforms better MPG

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to be fair, both issues are good reasons for doing it. performance is better too.

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performance is better too.

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How? I'm not sure about the VW's, but I think the Fiat's Dual-Logic has the same set-up as Toyota's Multi-Mode and it take about 1 sec to change gear . Thats a big lack of performance in itself if your flooring it and trying to accelerate fast!

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How? I'm not sure about the VW's, but I think the Fiat's Dual-Logic has the same set-up as Toyota's Multi-Mode and it take about 1 sec to change gear . Thats a big lack of performance in itself if your flooring it and trying to accelerate fast!

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autos are less efficient, you lose a significant amount of power and torque at the road wheels. used on the same engine, a manual is always quicker even with the delay you get on a dual-logic/selespeed setup.