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Hi everyone, this is actually my first post (on any forum!).
Hope this past year has been ok for you all?

I have just bought a burstner motorhome and found out that the lockable diesel cap was missing / had been replaced with a tight fitting push fit.
I’m a little scared that it may drop out at any time and would like to replace it with a proper lockable one.

Does anyone have any ideas on where I might find one?

I have loads of other questions as it’s our very first motorhome however I feel that this one is the most important for now.

Thanks for taking your time in reading and possible responses!
 
Hi and welcome to the BEST place to get answers on all things Ducato!
Your Burstner being Ducato, you'll fit right in. I myself have an i821, and have found this forum invaluable for sure.

I would say, main dealer, as you will possibly be able to order one with the same key number, so you will have one key fits all. However, they are available from other caravan/camper independent dealers, but IIRC there is more than one size. I've seen these online before, but can I find them now? Of course, NOT!

If you are OK with having a different key, then this will make life easier (and cheaper).
Meanwhile, a call here may help https://www.motorhomeandcaravanaccessories.co.uk/burstner/water-fuel-filler-cap-black-54

shows out of stock but worth a go? Also, it is the same, or very similar to, the water one-
https://www.caravan-parts.org/produ...placement-water-cap/?k=:::6541792:0'A=0''A=0'

Google similar items, '3 claw tank cap' etc. Good hunting!
 
Brilliant!!
Thanks so much for your reply!!
I’ll certainly have a look at each link you sent and hopefully find one.

We’ve just come back from our maiden trip to South Wales (at a national trust site with only 5 pitches near to Penbryn beach, the weather was fantastic!!) only I couldn’t find out how to drop the rear stabilising legs?? I messaged the guy we bought it from but he said he never used them!?

I can extend them but I think they need to be dropped vertically before hand only I can’t see how….!? They just extend at roughly 45 degrees to the floor.

It feels like we’re on a boat if anyone moves in it so would really appreciate if you could give this novice a pointer in the right direction ?

Thanks in advance!
 
I prefer to see a post giving the eventual solution to a problem, rather than thanks in advance. Informing the forum of the solution, may help others with the same problem.

As Ocwobio has stated, this is a good place to get answers to Ducato base vehicle problems. However your query relating to rear steadies is a motorhome problem, and you may do better by posting your problem on a motorhome forum, such as Out and About Live.
 
These MoHo's do wobble a bit as you have found out. The legs should wind down from 'up' position as soon as you start to turn the winder, fseveral turns needed to drop them before they start to actually extend, but, they are a silly (IMHO) design in that initial turns to drop the legs can be thwarted by them coming into contact with the ground, thus not offering correct support.

I sometimes clout the things down and back with the handle, to make sure they come down right initially, at the correct angle- they should point vertically or slightly towards the rear.

They are a bit of a pig, really, best plan is to remove the spring clip, then the locking pin, and set them to shortest length, wind them on down until they are all th way to the rear, adjust leg length and replace locking and split pin (They call it a 'splint' in the manual!), then carry on winding until foot pad is firmly on the ground.

It is good practice to always travel with these in the shortest position when raising in case any obstacles hit them.

Have you got the Burstner manual? I have an electronic copy if you need it. cheers!
 
Ocwobio said:
These MoHo's do wobble a bit as you have found out. The legs should wind down from 'up' position as soon as you start to turn the winder, fseveral turns needed to drop them before they start to actually extend, but, they are a silly (IMHO) design in that initial turns to drop the legs can be thwarted by them coming into contact with the ground, thus not offering correct support.

I sometimes clout the things down and back with the handle, to make sure they come down right initially, at the correct angle- they should point vertically or slightly towards the rear.

They are a bit of a pig, really, best plan is to remove the spring clip, then the locking pin, and set them to shortest length, wind them on down until they are all th way to the rear, adjust leg length and replace locking and split pin (They call it a 'splint' in the manual!), then carry on winding until foot pad is firmly on the ground.

It is good practice to always travel with these in the shortest position when raising in case any obstacles hit them.

Have you got the Burstner manual? I have an electronic copy if you need it. cheers!
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Hi, thanks for your reply and yes, I would greatly appreciate a copy of the manual (if possible).

I have attached a pic of our legs (I hope) to see if they are similar to yours?

I think I need to try and pull the pin out first to drop the legs??? Just not sure how??
They just extend at the same angle when I try wind them down and do not drop at all.
Cheers
 

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Your legs will wind down using the hexagonal shaped bolt. Your wheel brace may fit if you don’t have a dedicated tool.
 
Hi Sicilian, thanks for your message.
We have the dedicated tool to fit the hexagonal shaped bolt, but when winding, the legs just extend on an angle (as per the photo) they don’t drop down vertically, so when fully extended, they are no where near touching the ground.
It looks like there’s another smaller bolt with a washer near where the hexagonal bolt disappears, I think I need to somehow pull this out as it looks like it fits snugly in the plate surrounds the leg, and stopping the leg dropping..?
Thanks
Stuart
 
Ah yes, I missed your last sentence. I know they can seize if they haven’t had much use, have you tried giving them a good soak in wd40 to see if they release further? Or maybe give them a good whack as mentioned above :)
 
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Excellent advice Sicilian!!
They were soaked last weekend in WD40.
I thought I’d try again with a little extra persuasion from a lump hammer and hay presto, they dropped!!
The people we bought it from had it for 3 years and said they never bothered so they’ve been seized for sometime!
Looks like they’ve been ‘persuaded’ down previously as the box section is dented inwards.
I’ll make sure to keep a spare bottle of WD40 and soak them from now one, hopefully one day they’ll decide to drop all by themselves ??
Big thanks for help ??
 
Hi
they are similar to mine, but not identical, in the fact that mine has a leg length adjustment as the piece with the foot on, is adjustable, and is kept in the required position by the pin and safety pin I referred to. Yours appears not to have that particular detail.

What I would suggest, is you clean the workings of the winding gear as best you can, then spray lubricate it with some type of spray oil that will penetrate as far as possible.
You will find that you need to manually knock lever or push the leg down to its correct angle for use, after a few turns of the winder, as it looks like its going to be stiff, then further turns should actually start to extend it.

When working correctly, and winding back up again, the winder will start to shorten the leg, and as you carry on, the leg will start to tilt back up again, until the winder stops. They don't always do the tilt thing on lowering when dirty/ stiff I have found. Hope this sounds clear- they ain't like caravan legs which just do what you expect! I'll try to PM the manual, failing that, I can email it.
 
Fiat Ducato Burstner 647 said:
Hi Sicilian, thanks for your message.
We have the dedicated tool to fit the hexagonal shaped bolt, but when winding, the legs just extend on an angle (as per the photo) they don’t drop down vertically, so when fully extended, they are no where near touching the ground.
It looks like there’s another smaller bolt with a washer near where the hexagonal bolt disappears, I think I need to somehow pull this out as it looks like it fits snugly in the plate surrounds the leg, and stopping the leg dropping..?
Thanks
Stuart
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No. You don't need to touch that bolt, unless it has somehow been overtightened. It is merely a friction/ limit of movement setter. Short term, when some turns winding down have been made, clout the leg downwards-wind and repeat- see my response above where I try to give a clearer description (not sure I have tho'). :)
 
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