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Punto Pop power steering failure when turning on

Hi I have a 2013 punto pop and for a while now when I go to turn it on the battery light stays on and the power steering sticks. This fixes when I turn it off and on again. There are no problems with the power steering at any other time. This also never happens when I half turn then full turn the key when turning on. Does anybody have any ideas what this could be?
Iíve had it checked by mechanics and there are no faults, and an auto electrician has been out and run a diagnostic but nothing showed. Nobody seems to have heard of this before
Itís not an issue for me as Iím now used to starting it up with a double key turn but Iím going to want to sell my car and think this could be a problem for someone wanting to buy it.
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Re: Punto Pop power steering failure when turning on

Hi.
Its low battery power at start.up

(Lots of options..could be the alternator)

Turn the key.. let dash do all its checks.. then start engine

That should work ok.. do that for the rest of the week..

Let us know

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Re: Punto Pop power steering failure when turning on

Welcome!

Did you have recent repairs like a new alternator?
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Quote Originally Posted by varesecrazy View Post
Hi.
Its low battery power at start.up

(Lots of options..could be the alternator)

Turn the key.. let dash do all its checks.. then start engine

That should work ok.. do that for the rest of the week..

Let us know

Charlie

Thanks for the reply! I have been doing this and it works fine that way so itís not really a problem for me using the car but now that I want to sell it I can see it becoming a problem. Do you know if there is a fix for this/if it is something that will cause a big problem when trying to sell? Thank you
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Quote Originally Posted by damted View Post
Welcome!

Did you have recent repairs like a new alternator?
Hi! Nope there has been no recent repairs or anything 😕
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Quote Originally Posted by Vikkieff View Post
Thanks for the reply! I have been doing this and it works fine that way so itís not really a problem for me using the car but now that I want to sell it I can see it becoming a problem. Do you know if there is a fix for this/if it is something that will cause a big problem when trying to sell? Thank you
Hi again.

As you figured out this method works

The reason..:
the power in the battery is 'a bit'low


When you 1st turn the key ..LOTS of electrical stuff is happening..

A bit like turning on a P.C...
lots of power 'booting.up' the cars electronics..
+ IT RUNS THE FUEL PUMP..
Motors take a fair bit of power..

So all of the booting up + pump motor + starter motor = just too much

The biggest load is the Steering motor.. when this gets robbed of power.. its sensors flag up 'unexpected voltage'
(Thats what you are getting)

Ok.. what is the fix?

MORE POWER..


The Battery.. is just storage

The Alternator.. does the charging..and supplies BigPower for extra loads. Power Steering. Aircon. Electric windows.. roof. Etc.

Obvious..and cheapest.. is the battery.

They tend to perform great for @3 years.. then tail off.

Short journeys.. and winter cold starts give them a proper hard life..

Stop start systems need a special battery though (double the cost)

Alternators are a pain to swap..and cost more

Basic wiring COULD BE A problem..



But from what youve said.. its a basic issue like a tired battery.

Cheapest item and 10 mins to swap



Here is a link .. might give you reassurance

https://www.fiatforum.com/panda/477923-red-steering-wheel-light.html


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Re: Punto Pop power steering failure when turning on

Idea:

Try and get in the habit of turning

Interior fan.
Aircon
Lights

All off when you leave the car.. that might just give the battery the little extra it needs

Let us know how it goes.

Any questions..
You know where we are
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