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Old 24-07-2018   #16
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Re: Dualogic YES or NO?

Often to be changed as a set..

But..

Most failures are engines that are laid up for extended periods..and bearings getting corroded.

Many people do 200k without changing ANYTHING..

TBH. Waterpumps failing is far from common.

And any wear that will induce belt wander will give you SOME warning.

And noise.. fluid loss.

My 1st jtd had a bearing failure.. LOTS OF NOISE... local garage misdiagnosed..and changed wrong bearing.. belt wandered enough to saw slots in plastic covers.. YES REALLY..!!

engine ran for another 70k until sold on.
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Fairy Nuff.

I'll make sure they check it out.

Since its ex-Motability I'm guessing its probably had the right stuff in the coolant...

Thanks again.
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As a disabled, using hand controls, Dualogic user ( 3 different cars ) I would say to get someone who knows these gearboxes to check it out very carefully before you buy . They are great when they are working but VERY expensive to fix . My present Fiat is 9 years old and, dare I say it, o.k. but two previous cars both had problems, one fixed under warranty, and the other was unfixable without major repairs, so was quickly part ex'd.
Do get an iron backed warranty if you do buy, but when working they are, in my opinion better than any other auto, although they are a little slow in changing gear compared to, say, the twin clutch auto's . as it's possible to over-ride them without having to change over to 'manual'
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Old 24-07-2018   #19
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@DavyP Thanks for taking interest..

I did give the car a jolly good run around yesterday. About town hither and thither + dual carriageway bypass burn on manual + a stiff, practically vertical, sharp uphill S-bend in auto and gently down the other side....

Allowing for my lack of experience, it did very well. I like it.

Mechanic had a proper look for oil leaks etc. and ran a diagnostic, only minor flags are likely due to low battery which is apparently critical.

I went in to the subject pretty thoroughly, thanks to this forum; recon. gearbox actuators can be fitted for very reasonable sums so I'm not too worried now.

I'm also thinking there's been a lot of research and development behind the scenes in the years since your bad luck.

FIAT wouldn't be advertising the problems or the solutions; they certainly won't want to be getting a bad enough reputation to prevent their sales paying for the investment in initial design and production work.

The amount I'd have to pay for an "iron backed" warranty would go a long way to paying for whatever might go wrong, and there's lots of horror stories about the warrantee firms not paying up...and the claimant has to pay first and then get a refund.

With one thing and another, especially when far from home, a lot of strife and stress.

Being disabled myself, my money goes on a premium AA national recovery breakdown assistance which will get us and the car back home where I can relax with my wife and sort things out leisurely with known contacts...cheap and best.

Should be picking it up next Monday, new cambelt and all...onward and upward, fingers crossed.
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Try Green Flag, they offer a great service to get you and your car home with premium service if you register as disabled with them for about a 1/3 of the price AA charge.
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So, its Dualogic, YES!

Doris Doblo came to her new home yesterday complete with new cam belt, water pump, front brake pads and wiper blades...she's very nice.

The Dualogic seems brilliant to me, the only glitches so far have been driver error.
Once I forget my manual habits and reflexes, and can use the Dualogic properly without looking or thinking, I'm in no doubt it will work very well indeed.

@turbozed- Thanks for the 'Green Flag' advice, much appreciated. I already have premium AA cover with my Saga insurance but I'll certainly check out GF next year.

Thanks Also to Everybody who has chipped in with their advice and information. Very much appreciated!
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