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I have just ordered one of the above, so thought I should join the Fiat Forum and learn as much as possible about them I have asked the Dealer a number of questions about the car and still await answers, so I won't ask the same questions again here. I would however appreciate all and any information about these cars. The good, the bad, and the indifferent

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Not had any response from the Dealer, nor from the Forum. There is obviously nothing to be learned about a 4x4 Panda
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Re: 2018 Panda 4x4 Twin Air

Difficult to give you information if you don't say what you are looking for...
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Pick up the new Panda 4x4 tomorrow. I only hope it is one **** of a lot better than the service from the Dealer and the Insurance co. I will keep you updated. The Dealer did answer my questions and arranged to comply with my request for a small change to delivery...……………………………………….eventually!
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Welcome to the forum, sorry your initial posts went unnoticed!
I've added a prefix to your thread so that it appears in the Panda 2012+ section so that the relevant experts can weigh in
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Re: 2018 Panda 4x4 Twin Air

Hi.and welcome.
Where are you based?

Attending a FIAT meet after a week or 2 of ownership will gather a crowd..and help answer a few of your questions.

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Quote Originally Posted by Motorcyclist Colin View Post
I have just ordered one of the above, so thought I should join the Fiat Forum and learn as much as possible about them I have asked the Dealer a number of questions about the car and still await answers, so I won't ask the same questions again here. I would however appreciate all and any information about these cars. The good, the bad, and the indifferent

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I've got a Cross TA so can tell you that the engine improves at 3000 miles (I believe opinion here is that it is a "running in restriction" by Fiat) and watch out for the low ratio 1st gear as the rev limiter cuts in below the red line so short shift into 2nd ASAP !!
It didn't even seem to notice the snow this winter but not tried in mud yet !!
Fuel consumption is not great but only 4-5mpg worse than our 1.2 500 when used the same so all things considered its ok, ECO mode softens the power delivery and after 3000 miles can be used as the default around town and just turned off for acceleration/power if required.
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Re: 2018 Panda 4x4 Twin Air

Surely you be shifting gear a fair bit before the redline most of the time anyway?
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Surely you be shifting gear a fair bit before the redline most of the time anyway?

The gearing on 1st is quite low, someone else on the forum worked out the speeds https://www.fiatforum.com/panda-iii/325912-panda-4x4-trekking-gearing.html

but to save you looking they said...
"This is the speeds in gears at 2000 rpm in a Panda 4x4 TwinAir"

1st 6
2nd 12
3rd 21
4th 29
5th 37
6th 44

so redline is probably 20 ish mph ?(you certainly need to shift quick if trying to join fast traffic)



now I'm used to it I know to select 2nd at approx 10mph (3000rpm) then accelerate and choose bigger gaps in traffic than the 500 would do easily.
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Re: 2018 Panda 4x4 Twin Air

20mph isn't very low in 1st gear
I'd think most people out out of 1 at well before that normally

Personally I usually change up around 2200-2600
Allthrough I have the 1.3 in my 500
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Welcome to the forum.

I bought an ex-demo 4x4 TA five years ago. 65,000 miles, and nine trips to and from our homes in Devon and Umbria, later it's been a great little car. 40-42 mpg - not great - lugs up Alps on way back to Pudding Island in sixth with lots of wine and oil on board - as quick from 25-80 as the predecessor 100HP on a selected stretch of the A30. TA engine needs at least 3,000 miles on it to perform - probably 5,000. Incredible in mud/snow/up the very steep and deeply rutted track to our Italian home - deteriorated to the extent that the 100HP couldn't do it. cruises all day at 80-85 (cameras permitting) with something in reserve if a traffic situation demands. Very goos brakes - the rear discs are definitely an improvement. Very low tyre wear. Make sure the right oil is put in. The only negative is that it looks a bit bulbous and toad-like, especially beside the previous model. Tend to start in first, as second's a bit hard on the clutch unless downhill or just rolling.

Had new battery under warranty after a few months, which got Stop/Start working and I shall put a replacement in shortly as any weakness in the battery stymies S/S.
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Thanks for all the info everyone. I have just composed a long reply to everything, looked at "preview post" before I sent it, and my computer sent it to outer space where it can no longer be found! So BRIEFLY I am delighted with the car, and really addictive is the engine/exhaust note. It is nearly as great as my Vincents, or airhead BMW's, and that is praise indeed.
I am based in East Kent and would be pleasedto meet up with other Panda and/or motorbike owners. Also I will gird up my typing finger at a later date and try another detailed post of my early impressions
I look forward to getting more involved with Pandas, Forums etc in future
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I should like to properly say thanks again for my welcome to the Forum and the useful information.
I promise a more detailed reply some time
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The reference to BMW twins (I assume) interested me. Years ago BMW built the BMW 700 with essentially the bike engine with fan cooling and cooling shrouds that enabled a heater take-off - a saloon and a little coupé, which looked like a small Triumph Herald coupé. The twin-carb version produced - if I remember correctly - 46 hp - a little jewel that was all roller and ball bearings and (another link to the TA) needed special Shell Selenia oil, as used in diesels. As my Fiat 500 had a full 18 hp avaliable the obvious soultion was to replace the standard Solex carbs with a couple of Monobloc Amals and pop a BMW engine in its place - great little car that ate Mini Coopers for breakfast.
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I remember those! Early 60s? The coupe looked very good in two-tone paint (a neighbour of ours had a pale green one with a white roof). Didn't realise the engine was a 2 pot. It looked like a Renault Caravelle from the front, and a Herald from the back.
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