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I still think manufacturers are partly responsible. They have hardly been vocal about the flawed test or fake emissions/economy results it gives. They don't care as long as cars shift off the forecourt!

A-road driving on the whole is where a small turbo can shine in terms of economy (as long as you aren't keeping it high in the rev range racing it!). It's stop start traffic where the turbo spools up constantly which is where their inadequacy shows. And given that most of us live in cities or large towns...
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Our Suzuki isn't available with the 1.6 any more, it's been replaced by a 1.0 turbo. I'd be very interested to compare them.

Do they offer an extended Test Drive like Fiat's 24 hour one?
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Don't know. Our local dealer is a small, friendly place so I'm sure they would accommodate us. However, we've no plans to change for at least another year, and I'd feel guilty about stringing them along at present.
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34k our 1.6 multijet averages 52 though it's just done 3k miles through France and the Alps fully loaded with cycle carrier and 80 mph on autoroutes. Now back to normal duties and it's creeping back up to 54 where it usually sits. This average is currently over 20k miles of mixed driving so urban commutes and motorway.
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Re: New fiat 500x not very economical

I have the 1.6 etorq and I've got 5k on the clock and averaging 37mpg. This is mix of town and motorway. I find it's very sensitive to how it is driven to get good mpg. It's an ok engine and does the job I need from it. The extra money for the diesel or multi air is never see back due to the low mileage I do.

Yes people are going to slate it because it's old technology and not a small block turbo but these are the kind of engines which are giving fixed emission figures at the moment.
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34k our 1.6 multijet averages 52 though it's just done 3k miles through France and the Alps fully loaded with cycle carrier and 80 mph on autoroutes. Now back to normal duties and it's creeping back up to 54 where it usually sits. This average is currently over 20k miles.


Fair enough, if you know them quite well they might actually tell you how the two versions compare. No skin off their nose as they say
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My 1.4 lounge turbo gauge details a steady 34.5 mpg. Feel this is par for the course for a.car that can zip a long. Part of the joy of ownership of this marquee. I had been a diesel company car driver for 20 years ( when petrols.used to deliver in general 25 mpg). So no complaints at 34.5 mpg.
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Not done enough mixed miles to really give a comparison on our 1.6 MJ but around town its giving about 44mpg currently.... Will be interested to see what it does on a run.
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When I first got my 1.4 Lounge Multiair I did a brim to brim tank calculation and compared it with the trip reading. The latter was about 10% optimistic. Subsequent calculations have shown it's within 5%, not too bad. So last week when we holidayed in Norfolk and covered about 450 miles, I reset the trip and at the end of the week it showed 43.9 mpg, so I guess it actually returned just under 42. I think that's acceptable for a 140bhp petrol car.
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I'm looking at all these wonderful MPG values with tears in my eyes. Why? Because my engine is 2.4 L petrol, and that's enough said.
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I'm looking at all these wonderful MPG values with tears in my eyes. Why? Because my engine is 2.4 L petrol, and that's enough said.
I am guessing you are in America? If so, keep in mind that a US gallon is smaller than a UK one, so your fuel economy will appear to be less compared to the figures in this thread...

Also remember that US fuel is usually of a lower quality as well, with your 'premium' octane ratings coming in at around 91. Our 'cheap' fuel is a legal minimum of 95 with premium fuels being between 97 and 99. I even know one garage next to a Ferrari dealership that sells 103 octane jungle juice!

Comparing US and UK fuel economy is not the easiest!
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I am guessing you are in America?
No, I'm in Europe and the high fuel consumption is hitting my wallet hard.
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No, I'm in Europe and the high fuel consumption is hitting my wallet hard.


I didn't know the 2.4L petrol engine was available in Europe. I assume it's naturally aspirated?
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I didn't know the 2.4L petrol engine was available in Europe.
It's not. The car is from the US.
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No, I'm in Europe and the high fuel consumption is hitting my wallet hard.


Ouch, just read a road-test of this motor, 24 US mpg is not good. Especially for a car that size
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