500X New fiat 500x not very economical

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500X New fiat 500x not very economical

34k our 1.6 multijet averages 52 though it's just done 3k miles through France and the Alps fully loaded with cycle carrier and 80 mph on autoroutes. Now back to normal duties and it's creeping back up to 54 where it usually sits. This average is currently over 20k miles.



Fair enough, if you know them quite well they might actually tell you how the two versions compare. No skin off their nose as they say
 
My 1.4 lounge turbo gauge details a steady 34.5 mpg. Feel this is par for the course for a.car that can zip a long. Part of the joy of ownership of this marquee. I had been a diesel company car driver for 20 years ( when petrols.used to deliver in general 25 mpg). So no complaints at 34.5 mpg.
 
Not done enough mixed miles to really give a comparison on our 1.6 MJ but around town its giving about 44mpg currently.... Will be interested to see what it does on a run.
 
When I first got my 1.4 Lounge Multiair I did a brim to brim tank calculation and compared it with the trip reading. The latter was about 10% optimistic. Subsequent calculations have shown it's within 5%, not too bad. So last week when we holidayed in Norfolk and covered about 450 miles, I reset the trip and at the end of the week it showed 43.9 mpg, so I guess it actually returned just under 42. I think that's acceptable for a 140bhp petrol car.
 
I'm looking at all these wonderful MPG values with tears in my eyes. Why? Because my engine is 2.4 L petrol, and that's enough said. :(
 
I'm looking at all these wonderful MPG values with tears in my eyes. Why? Because my engine is 2.4 L petrol, and that's enough said. :(

I am guessing you are in America? If so, keep in mind that a US gallon is smaller than a UK one, so your fuel economy will appear to be less compared to the figures in this thread...

Also remember that US fuel is usually of a lower quality as well, with your 'premium' octane ratings coming in at around 91. Our 'cheap' fuel is a legal minimum of 95 with premium fuels being between 97 and 99. I even know one garage next to a Ferrari dealership that sells 103 octane jungle juice!

Comparing US and UK fuel economy is not the easiest!
 
Ouch, just read a road-test of this motor, 24 US mpg is not good. Especially for a car that size

Yep. Everyone is complaining about its inadequately high consumption. The engine is not that powerful and it shouldn't devour so much fuel.
 
That's why it's not sold in Europe. The EU fines manufacturers for corporate average CO2 over 130g/km. It's €5 for the first gram over, €15 for the second, €25 for the third and €95 for each subsequent gram. The manual Multiair 1.4 is 139g, the 2.4 hasn't been tested. All of the manual diesels are under 130g. You can understand why manufacturers are keen for us to buy diesels.
 
I don't want to sound unduly facetious, but what sense is there in buying a 2.4 litre engined, relatively heavy, slab sided un-aerodynamic lump of a car and expecting even acceptable fuel economy? I don't get it.
 
I don't want to sound unduly facetious, but what sense is there in buying a 2.4 litre engined, relatively heavy, slab sided un-aerodynamic lump of a car and expecting even acceptable fuel economy? I don't get it.



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I don't want to sound unduly facetious, but what sense is there in buying a 2.4 litre engined, relatively heavy, slab sided un-aerodynamic lump of a car and expecting even acceptable fuel economy? I don't get it.

No sense whatsoever, if your priority is fuel economy. I was ready for a doubled, even tripled consumption in comparison to my previous TDI engine. It was still worth it for me, because of the ridiculous price on the car itself. Although, I must admit, if I were to get the same deal on a 2.0 diesel, I would most likely go for it.
 
Petrol is ridiculously cheap in US, maybe that accounts for the decent deal outside the US. In the UK now that engine wouldn't be viable
 
Petrol is ridiculously cheap in US, maybe that accounts for the decent deal outside the US. In the UK now that engine wouldn't be viable

Indeed. In the US market I suspect that the FCA 2.4 is as fuel efficient as it can be, coupled with emissions etc. etc.

The US have always liked/appreciated engine "volumetric" (size matters) stats. With their ridiculously low fuel costs I doubt the volumetric vs mpg stats are going to make a land shift variation.
 
Petrol is ridiculously cheap in US, maybe that accounts for the decent deal outside the US.

The deals are decent because these are used American cars, auctioned cheaply and re-sold in small European countries like Lithuania, where I live. I don't think it has anything to do with petrol prices.
 
Does it come with any extra goodies that the European models don't get?

I don't think so. The only difference, besides the Chrysler engine, is the Sirius XM subscription package, which is irrelevant in Europe.

Also, the American version lacks the rear fog lights, which is a problem. The reseller had to come up with a makeshift solution in order to make the car passable for the local vehicle inspection.
 
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