Technical No Bite on Clutch

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Technical No Bite on Clutch

Mutley67

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Hello, wondered if anyone could help. My clutch lost bite, so I replaced both the Slave and Master cylinders and bled the fluid. Still no joy, so heard that if I pointed the nose in the air that would help release any air locks, tried that and also tried lifting the back end too. Still no luck.
Is there anyone out there who knows what my problem might be?


Cheers.
 
Hi did you bleed it at the bulk head remove the battery for easy access also pull clip out at master cylinder and pull out the flexi pipe a little. The fluid drips out slowly till clear ? That's it normally


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Hi


Having been where you are, I'm in a good position to advise.


When you press the clutch pedal, does the slave piston move at all? If it doesn't then you've got air in the system still. If it does move, about 1 1/2 - 2 inches, then the hydraulics are fine, and it's the clutch itself.


What happened for you to change the cylinders? Did the slave piston stop moving, or was it just that the biting point was at/ near the floor at the pedal?


The part at the bulkhead is an additional bleed nipple, which you need to get free of air first, before moving on to the slave cylinder. To help bleed the system, I used a foot pump and section of inner tube with the valve to get pressure at the header tank, in order to push the fluid through. I then opened the bulkhead bleed nipple until the air was gone. Then you move to the slave piston, where the bleed nipple is moulded into the plastic body, so it doesn't unscrew. You have to remove the circlip/ wire clip and push the fitting out of the body. Be careful as there are 2 small o rings which tore on me, causing the fluid to leak past and loose pressure.


I had my assistant push the clutch pedal, while I held this fitting together. Once the pressure is behind it, you can let it separate slightly, releasing the air. Once this happened, push the fitting back together, and release the pedal. Keep repeating this until the air has gone. Refit the clip and all should be okay.


I'll provide more advice as to your response.


Cheers


JamesAtthews
 
Hi did you bleed it at the bulk head remove the battery for easy access also pull clip out at master cylinder and pull out the flexi pipe a little. The fluid drips out slowly till clear ? That's it normally


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Hi, thanks for your help. Did the master cylinder clip, but cannot find the bleed nipple at the bulkhead.
 
Hi


Having been where you are, I'm in a good position to advise.


When you press the clutch pedal, does the slave piston move at all? If it doesn't then you've got air in the system still. If it does move, about 1 1/2 - 2 inches, then the hydraulics are fine, and it's the clutch itself.


What happened for you to change the cylinders? Did the slave piston stop moving, or was it just that the biting point was at/ near the floor at the pedal?


The part at the bulkhead is an additional bleed nipple, which you need to get free of air first, before moving on to the slave cylinder. To help bleed the system, I used a foot pump and section of inner tube with the valve to get pressure at the header tank, in order to push the fluid through. I then opened the bulkhead bleed nipple until the air was gone. Then you move to the slave piston, where the bleed nipple is moulded into the plastic body, so it doesn't unscrew. You have to remove the circlip/ wire clip and push the fitting out of the body. Be careful as there are 2 small o rings which tore on me, causing the fluid to leak past and loose pressure.


I had my assistant push the clutch pedal, while I held this fitting together. Once the pressure is behind it, you can let it separate slightly, releasing the air. Once this happened, push the fitting back together, and release the pedal. Keep repeating this until the air has gone. Refit the clip and all should be okay.


I'll provide more advice as to your response.


Cheers


JamesAtthews


Hello and thanks for your help.

James, can you let me know where the bleed nipple by the bulkhead is as I can't find it?
Was yours a Diesel or Petrol, (mine is a 1.6 Petrol).
I have bled the whole system using a one man pressure bleeder, but it didn't sort it.
 
Mutley, you need to answer this part ~
. . . When you press the clutch pedal, does the slave piston move at all? If it doesn't then you've got air in the system still. If it does move, about 1 1/2 - 2 inches, then the hydraulics are fine, and it's the clutch itself . . .

No amount of bleeding or new Clutch actuating parts will cure your issue if the Clutch itself is knackered.
If it's gone suddenly, the usual culprit is the Release Bearing, it just falls apart . . .

Release Bearing failure . . .
 
Hi


Mine is a diesel, and the secondary bleed point is located on the bulkhead, between the engine and the battery, at the bottom of the curved engine bay padding liner, where the brake pipes etc run.


It's like a barrel, with the nipple on the side, and the pipe fittings at either end.


I hope for your sake it's the system that needs a bleed.


Let me know if you've got further questions.


Cheers


JamesAtthews
 
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