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General Wear & Tear Clutch 16,000 Miles

Is this possible? Garage have phoned up to say that the cars problems may be down to clutch wear and tear. If this is the case then warranty will not cover.

Doeas this seem right that a clutch could go from brand new to none existant within 16,000 miles.

Could you please let me know when you have had to replace the cluthces on yor cars?
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Re: General Wear & Tear Clutch 16,000 Miles

Can be if you allow your foot to rest on the clutch while driving.
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Re: General Wear & Tear Clutch 16,000 Miles

No definetly not. I have never replaced a clutch in any of my cars with such low mileage.
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Re: General Wear & Tear Clutch 16,000 Miles

Garage phoned today to say that the Clutch Master Cylinder Plate had gone, covered by warranty, however unable to get a part until the 3rd Jan, so will have missed 12 days of work. Happy that found out what the problem was, however really hacked off that it has taken so long to resolve, or put another way have lost loads of money.
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Re: General Wear & Tear Clutch 16,000 Miles

As of today still no return of car. Apparently garage has come across complications.
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Re: General Wear & Tear Clutch 16,000 Miles

Clutch master cylinder plate...?

Is that even a real part? If yours is a JTD the master cylinder sits atop the gearbox.

I've seen a clutch go through a failure of the pressure plate (bit wierd), and oil coming through the bolts on the flywheel (very wierd).
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Got the car back 2 weeks ago. First day I got back would get an occasional whiff of what I can only describe as a burning plastic smell. Spoke to the dealership, they said that this could be the new parts "easing in". Anyway, covered another 1,500 miles since then and gearbox is starting to feel notchy again. I think I am going to have exactly the same problem again within the next week or so.

I am sorry but I feel this car is a bag of ****e. Worst car I have ever owned.
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Re: General Wear & Tear Clutch 16,000 Miles

I feel your pain but this is the first time we've heard of this on the Multipla. A Monday or Friday car me thinks. Hope you get it sorted once and for all very soon.

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Re: General Wear & Tear Clutch 16,000 Miles

Spoke to garage today, have confirmed Clutch Master Cylinder has gone. This is the second time in 2 weeks. So since getting this crappy car I have lost 3 weeks of wages due to car not working.

Fiat customer services are lloking into the problem.

To anyone thinking about buying one of these cars I would strongly suggest dont.
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Re: General Wear & Tear Clutch 16,000 Miles

Because yours has had a problem? If we all didn't buy something because someone had a problem then nobody would buy anything.


Didn't you get a courtesy car given how new the car is and how the part has failed 2 weeks since fitting? I wouldn't take 3 weeks off - firstly the company wouldn't allow me 3 weeks off because my car is broken, secondly I'd do better getting a taxi or hire a car rather than lose 3 weeks pay.
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"Because yours has had a problem? If we all didn't buy something because someone had a problem then nobody would buy anything."

If this was the only problem I had had with this car I could understand but so far I have had broken drivers seat, faulty brake sensor, faulty interior lights, fault oil sensor, clutch plate and master cylinder problems. With only 18,000 miles on the clock.

I cannot speak for yours or others experiences with these cars, but only mine own, and mine is that this is a duff car. Would I buy another Fiat? No chance.

"Didn't you get a courtesy car given how new the car is"

Fiat will not provide me with a courtesy car as I am a cabbie, there insurance will not cover me/passengers.

22nd Dec car would not go into gear, parts not delivered until 3rd Jan. As you can imagine this is my busiest time, I cannot hire another cab, as none available, because every cabbie is working during this time. I can't just go to Rent A Car and pick one up as it has to be tested by the Hackney carriage, meter fitted and calibrated.

How has the new part failed 2 weeks since fitting?

You tell me. I dont't know. From what I can understand (I aint mechanically minded so bear with me) new clutch plate fitted on the 4th jan, new master cylinder to be fitted when new parts come in. So from my point of view 2 occasions I cannot get car into gear.

"I wouldn't take 3 weeks off - firstly the company wouldn't allow me 3 weeks off because my car is broken, secondly I'd do better getting a taxi or hire a car rather than lose 3 weeks pay. "

Do you think I want to be here stuck at home and earning no money? I am self employed, if I don't work I don't earn. This week the car was booked in on the 23rd Jan and will be ready at the earliest 28th jan. If another cab is available to hire, they will look to tie me down to a hire agreement for some time, ie weeks, I wont be able to hire just for a couple of days here and there.

I do not want to offend anyone I am just reiterating my experience, believe me if I could find a soloution I would, however I feel I have been let down to either faulty parts/workmanship etc which has cost me dear.
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Re: General Wear & Tear Clutch 16,000 Miles

Ah, way you worded it sounded like you just needed the car for getting to work. Quite a bummer if it is your work!

All I can say is stick with it. With a new clutch and clutch system (which is basically what you'll have since you have clutch plate/master cylinder replaced, the car should be good for years. I can only imagine crap has got into the master cylinder and damaged the seals. I'd ask them for some assurances that the slave cylinder has been checked. Don't want your breaking down again with a dead slave!

I feel some of these lead times on parts are a bit long. A JTD clutch and master cylinder should be almost stock parts - and if not in stock shouldn't be wait weeks parts.
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Guess what, car is back in dealership. Once again after about 6hours of driving, car doesn't want to go into gear again. Car only lasted 5 days this time. What a pile of **** this car is.

Car has now been back to the dealership with same problem, 3 times within the last month.
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Re: General Wear & Tear Clutch 16,000 Miles

Who's doing the work? Shouldn't need to be back 3 times. Someone is missing something.
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