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Old 28-11-2020   #31
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You're doing a great job there bro. Well done. Keep the pic's coming.
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Well, I got the clutch off using this lot - yeah I need some more tools!
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This is what the plate looked like, some interesting marks - perhaps it was getting hot towing caravans with the last owner.
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Anyway, knobled the new clutch on and left it for the evening. Next morning I went to put the gearbag back on and noticed i'd put the friction plate on ass backwards. Oh how I laughed (Read cried! rectified that and then put the gearbox up. Was the easiest episode yet. This time I slung a rope around the rear passenger wheel and used it to pull the passenger side of the subframe as far back as I could to give maximum access. Even so it's extremely awkward when on axle stands and will only go into the space through one path, with rotations and giggling. An absolute arse of a job.

Just got to put the rest back together now!
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Only slightly drawn blood...
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I'm more worried when I finish a job and i haven't drawn blood, i find my cars are never happy unless they get their blood sacrifice
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Quite agree, no job complete without skinned knuckles or scratched wrists... mine got its pound of flesh changing the passenger airbag last week....
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Just the last few pieces of the puzzle to go back together now:
Boost pipe clips
Battery tray
Other bracket that holds the boost vacuum solenoid
Airbox
Gearbox oil
Wheels back on

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The two brackets were very crusty and I couldn't leave them like that so I removed what rust I could and gave them a coat of anthracite ( that's all I had)

Only an hour or so to go I reckon!

Had a right ball ache with the clutch as I thought it prudent to test the clutch just after putting the last of the bell housing bolts in and bolting on the slave. Failed to notice the hairpin clip that holds in the clutch line into the slave had pinged off during my spannering. So I go and stamp on the pedal and nearly put it through the carpet and the gearbox is covered in brake fluid. Yay!
Anyway found the clip (bloody lucky really - try finding one for sale). Installed it and tried pressure bleeding. Still no clutch - slave barely moved. Then read some bleeding clever New Zealanders tip about reverse gravity feeding the bleed nipple. Thought I'd turbocharge the idea with the Gibson's easy bleed. After a couple of tries and a few presses of the pedal I think I nearly have full travel. Worth continuing the slog anyway. For a moment I was convinced I had something else wrong like a misplaced release bearing or something awful.
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Well, I spent the last hour on this when I should have been working.

and the clutch?!??!!!

No Bueno.

Pedal is ridiculously light again so it looks like my bleed method didn't last. Perhaps I have a leak somewhere. Will pull the airbox back off and give it another bleed when I have time.

Sodding thing!
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https://youtu.be/7dz6OIO7AVk

Still no Bueno...
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Nice job on the battery and air box mounts.
Clutch bleeding just a pain. Work the slave to get rid of air. Vent on bulkhead behind "battery" etc . Have plenty of money for the swear jar !
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Can you set your camera up to video the clutch release arm while you're doing that? Might give some clues as to whether the problem lies within the hydraulics or the clutch housing.

What sort of condition were your clutch release fork and bearings in?

Top effort all round, anyway I think I've got a new clutch slave cylinder knocking about somewhere (goodness knows where ) . If that's the problem, I can send it to you if you cover the postage.
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Can you set your camera up to video the clutch release arm while you're doing that? Might give some clues as to whether the problem lies within the hydraulics or the clutch housing.

What sort of condition were your clutch release fork and bearings in?

Top effort all round, anyway I think I've got a new clutch slave cylinder knocking about somewhere (goodness knows where ) . If that's the problem, I can send it to you if you cover the postage.
Here's one I made earlier:
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Thanks WMF,
The fork looked ok and the release bearing was replaced.

I think this is now just a bleeding problem. After I bled it again just this afternoon it was ok the first few presses. Then it got progressively worse until the grinding re-appeared. Will try a conventional bleed from top down tomorrow, perhaps play with some pedal pushes during the bleed and go from there.

If it is the slave I'll definitely be in touch!
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Thanks WMF,
The fork looked ok and the release bearing was replaced.

I think this is now just a bleeding problem. After I bled it again just this afternoon it was ok the first few presses. Then it got progressively worse until the grinding re-appeared. Will try a conventional bleed from top down tomorrow, perhaps play with some pedal pushes during the bleed and go from there.

If it is the slave I'll definitely be in touch!
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Multiplemultis mentioned the bleed nipple on the damper in the clutch pipe which is attached to the bulk head.

Sounds as if air could be being drawn into clutch fluid somewhere.

Could be worth checking in drivers footwell
, pull back dust boot from clutch master check for fluid leak .

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I have found that pressure bleeding works far better using low low pressure rather than higher pressure.
Top down bleeding worked for me.
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I have found that pressure bleeding works far better using low low pressure rather than higher pressure.
Top down bleeding worked for me.

Thanks Jackwhoo, I will have a go at that bulkhead bleed nipple. Obviously at this point you start to think ”hmm did it need a clutch or was it just not bled properly”

You are bang on about low pressure though as you can see the fluid start to aerate if it flows too fast.

Watched a yootoob Vidya the other week where a guy used a big syringe to pull the fluid from the nipple.

Watch this space.
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clear 6mm OD was too small to reverse bleed on slave nipple with big syringe. Cannot tap bubbles out. Kiwi guy had larger than 6mm diameter on youtube.


I sorted out mine with forward pressure bleed recently as that is kit I have, just on slave. It had been sat for 10 months not moving. I think lower pressure comments sounds like good advice.
I dropped tyre to about 18 psi any higher is a bit violent and uncontrolled.

Full 2.4 bar blew the seal and made a mess some years ago!

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