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Quote Originally Posted by Pieter24 View Post
As much as I agree with your statement regarding Tesa, it is what we all believe in. It is not for no reason that half the world owns an Iphone. Surely they are doing more things right than just the branding. Expecting Tesla to take over the industry in a few years.
no where near half the word owns one


As for Tesla unless they bring out much cheeper models don't see them taking over the industry especially with the money VAG group and investing

Perhaps they will supply parts to a large % of the market like batterys
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Re: I got myself a 100HP - Finally!

The big risk with Tesla is not that they'll one day make cheaper cars. The risk happens if the can't or won't make cheaper cars.

Few car companies make a useful profit on small cars. That's made at the top end which is exactly where they are already being hit by Tesla. All they have to do is steal everyone's lunch. In USA to November 2019, the biggest selling car in the small-medium luxury sector was the Tesla Model 3. The next best seller was BMW, but not just one model - the Model 3 outsold BMW's entire range!

If the complacency continues, we will see lumps of Big Auto going bust long before Tesla or the competition can take up the slack.

For anyone with cash to risk this is worth a shout - Sono Motors from Sweden wit ha battery electric car that's covered with solar cells.

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Re: I got myself a 100HP - Finally!

This last month and a half I have been very busy, sadly not busy wrenching on my 100HP, but busy at work.
I'm in the middle of the biggest project I've ever been involved in, so there's not much time or energy left for fixing cars or writing about it.

Anyways I have managed to get a bit done, so it's time for an update.

I moved my Pioneer radio from my old Panda into this one, and installed some pretty nice old stock pioneer component speaker in the doors. They are from 2007 just like my 100HP, so period correct
The guy that bought them never installed them, and after 12 years decided to sell them for cheap as chips - lucky me.

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There wasn't an option to mount the tweeters in a hole, so I had to be a bit creative, and with the help of an o-ring and a glue gun, it turned out pretty decent, I think.

I also did some small cosmetic things like mounting the number plates properly, and polishing them up. We can't just buy new ones like in the UK, as numberplates are 155 a set - no, not kidding...

Next was trying my luck pushing out two really bad dents either side of the handle for the rear hatch. They probably got there, when someone was pushing the car. I have always admired those who could fix a dent with some hand tools and a gentle touch, and always wanted a go myself. I didn't have any dent tools though, so I used my finger tips, knockles, the wooden handle of a wire brush and the rounded handles of two srewdrivers - proper

The dents were pretty complex, and I haven't gotten a perfect result (yet), but it's so much better than when I started. I have now worked at it three times, and it gets a bit better every time. The key is patience, good lighting and being very gentle, as it's very easy to push the metal too far.
I didn't take any before pictures, so the first picture below is the best one I have.

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Finally this weekend I did a complete rear brake overhaul including handbrake cables. I never liked restoring calipers, but mine were pretty much without function, so I had to get it done.
The calipers were corroded where the o-ring sits inside the caliper, so the o-ring was pushing so hard against the piston that it wasn't able to move.
It wasn't exactly easy to take apart!

A lot of cleaning, scraping, sanding and swearing went into them, and I got it all back together again. Sadly I had to reuse the old pistons, as the new ones lacked the threaded centre part, and I couldn't for the life of me figure out how to get it out of the old pistons. After a couple of hours researching, and trying, I gave up, and started restoring the surfaces of the old pistons with 2000 grid sandpaper and oil.
While I was sanding i found a tiny hole near the piston top with a pin in it, which was probably what was holding the center part in. It was rusty, so it had to be drilled out, but I had no new pins, so didn't bother.

The paint on the calipers was ok, but the the carriers had to be repainted. I used K2 caliper paint, and t was a surprisingly good color match.

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I finished half past one last night, and must have been very tired, as I forgot to tighten the right caliper
And even though there was rattling and knocking noises, my exhausted brain could't diagnose it. The pedal feel was really bad a well, and I went to bed pretty disappointed. Nothing worse than spending a day on something, and the result is even worse than when you started.

This morning the brain was a bit better, so I figured it out. When I took the right wheel off the caliper was only hanging on with one bolt, so that was a clue to figuring it out
By the way, I got new bols from ebay uk. They are 10x1,25x20mm if anyone needs new ones.

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I also found out that the left caliper did absolutely nothing, even when pulling the hand brake
After many swear word, and checking stuff, it hit me that maybe the piston was so far wound back that brake fluid could not get behind it and push it out. I wound the piston out a bit, and boom, everything suddenly worked perfect

The car now brakes very well, and the handbrake feels just as nice as drum brakes

I did both wheels bearing too, and the car is almost completely silent, and I can even hear the engine above 50mph now . One of the wheel bearings was only 5 months old, but the mechanic changing it, lost the thick washer pressing on the bearing, but decided just to jam the bolt on anyways. That explains the appox 1cm of play the right real wheel had - what an idiot
The car naturally tracks a lot better and I'm really starting to enjoy it now.

I don't know about you, but the more I fix on a car, the more it becomes mine, an the more I enjoy it
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Re: I got myself a 100HP - Finally!

Show and tell time again

Like some (most? all?) 100HP's, mine has a slightly crunchy shift into second gear when the box is cold unless very careful and/or double clutch. But far worse to me is a hard crunch when trashing it,
and changing relatively fast into third - when properly warmed up naturally!
There is probably not much that can be done about it, but I wanted to try and change the oil to see if it had any effect.

I decided that I would get the original Petronas Tutela car technyx 75w85 GL4 plus (Long name!). Putting a non original oil in would always have made me wonder if the original would have performed better.
I had to import it from Germany, as I there wasn't even a web shop that had it in Denmark.

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The oil was due a change as you can probably see I was pretty dark and had a slight metallic dust in it. This is normal wear of course, but can't be doing the components any good.
I bought a 300ml oil syringe to refill, but ended up using a funnel and a piece of hose to instead, as access was pretty good. 1,5 liters was all it took, so 0,15L must have been left in the box.
Cold performance has improved, and the shifting is a bit smoother overall. The crunching is as expected unchanged or very close to that at least.

Next up was some detail work, Which is something I always enjoy.
My gear knob top had seen better days as you can see.

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I expected it was going to be pretty hard to find a good color match, but to my surprise I found that there was still a paint shop in Aarhus (where I live), that carried automotive spray paint.
The shop had an entire wall with both Motip and multona in all colors of the rainbow and more, and they could even mix up a spray can from a code. First place i have ever seen that in Denmark!
I always envy you guys in the UK, as car stuff is much more accessible. And now you are leaving the EU, so we have to pay both customs and VAT when importing

I decided on Motip color number 55330, if anyone is interested. It's not a perfect match, but better than I hoped to find. It half a tone lighter I would say, but it matches the pandamonium mirrors and go faster stripe better.
I actually prefer it over the original, so maybe I will paint the rest of the interior bits some day for that perrrrfic match.

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pretty dark and had a slight metallic dust in it. This is normal wear of course, but can't be doing the components any good.
I'm used to changing transmission oil on the (older) cars I've had in the past & I was surprised the Panda's handbook states just to check level at 80,000 miles, nothing about changing it. Well worth doing, I agree.

Love the look of the 100HP on your steel wheels from your other post by the way!
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Quote Originally Posted by rmjbn1 View Post
I'm used to changing transmission oil on the (older) cars I've had in the past & I was surprised the Panda's handbook states just to check level at 80,000 miles, nothing about changing it. Well worth doing, I agree.

Love the look of the 100HP on your steel wheels from your other post by the way!
Common these days most gearboxes have for life oil
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Re: I got myself a 100HP - Finally!

Yeah, bit weird that. Come to think of it, the only cars I've had in the past that recommended a transmission fluid change was my Ford Fk1250 transit van, and my Fiat 600, and they were both from the 60's. My Fiat 127 from 1976 was for life, as far as I can remember.
I wonder if new cars still have drain and fill plugs?
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Re: I got myself a 100HP - Finally!

Plugs are still there. Oil has gotten much better nowadays. But if i's good enough for life?

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For none car enthusiast cars, and for an average car lifespan, I believe the original gear oil will easily be for life. My Panda is 13 years old now and has done 191.000km, which I would guess exceeds the average lifespan. My gearbox oil was a bit dirty but fine, and still did the job, but if you suffer from mechanical sympathy like I do, then it was well past it

I can't remember where on youtube I found an interview with a lab guy from a big oil company, that said that the synthetic parts of modern oil will hardly degrade over time! It's the particles and other contamination that makes it necessary to change it.
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Re: I got myself a 100HP - Finally!

OK that makes sense if the manufacturer assumes the transmission oil will meet the requirements for the average car lifespan.

This was 13.9 years in the UK in 2015, which is a huge improvement on what it used to be.

As you say though, those particles in the oil can't be doing the internals any good. For continued protection beyond the car's anticipated lifespan, I think it's well worth changing.

So your 100HP is just approaching retirement age then! Looks like she's going to enjoy an 'active retirement'
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Interesting read, thanks.
I would never have guessed it was that high in the UK, as your cars are so cheap, compared to Denmark, and we only manage 8.8 years according to a fast google search.
Hats of to you!

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Quote Originally Posted by testacorsa View Post
Interesting read, thanks.
I would never have guessed it was that high in the UK, as your cars are so cheap, compared to Denmark, and we only manage 8.8 years according to a fast google search.
Hats of to you!

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My insurance was 830 last year for 10k miles on a 1.4 tipo , with 3 years no claims and a lisence for 3 years
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Yes, I was amazed to find it was that high in the UK (and the US is very similar). Last time I'd heard it quoted it was depressingly low, around 8-9 years, which is what it used to be in the mid-90's.

Rust has always been the big car killer here, and I imagine it's the same story in Denmark? Thankfully cars have improved so much for rust-prevention in recent years. I still can't get over the great condition of my cheap little 16 year-old FIAT!

Either that or they're fiddling the numbers. Or maybe because classics are very popular in the UK, driving the average age of registered cars way beyond that actually seen on the roads?

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My insurance was 830 last year for 10k miles on a 1.4 tipo , with 3 years no claims and a lisence for 3 years
Insurance is steap when you're young. I feel your pain - been there!

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Yes, I was amazed to find it was that high in the UK (and the US is very similar). Last time I'd heard it quoted it was depressingly low, around 8-9 years, which is what it used to be in the mid-90's.

Rust has always been the big car killer here, and I imagine it's the same story in Denmark? Thankfully cars have improved so much for rust-prevention in recent years. I still can't get over the great condition of my cheap little 16 year-old FIAT!

Either that or they're fiddling the numbers. Or maybe because classics are very popular in the UK, driving the average age of registered cars way beyond that actually seen on the roads?
We use a lot of salt in the winter, so rust is pretty bad here too. We can consider ourself lucky that our cars were galvanised, which is still a mystery to me. Maybe it's because it was made in Poland, and they wanted to sell more cars to countries with harsher environments? They did start to cut corners though, with no paint in the engine bay from 2006? and forward, and who knows what else. My 2007 is more rusty with less mileage than my 2005 was before I sold it.

I think you are right about the classics influencing the average lifespan. I would be interesting to know the average lifespan of cars from 2000 and up.
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Heehee just worked out my three cars have an average age of 37 years, so maybe it's all down to idiots like me

And (although I hesitate to call you an idiot), you Your MX5 must be getting on for 30 years old now?

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