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Re: 2013 Unplugged Green Punto Twinair

Good job with oil change.. what tools did you need?

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Fiatdalys have an excellent online shopping system.

My underside is NOT a smooth 'tray'

But a series of 'boxes'..

Makes me confused.. on the odd occasion I see the underside..

Oh .. and the Royal Enfield exhaust
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Re: 2013 Unplugged Green Punto Twinair

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Good job with oil change.. what tools did you need?

ePER ..
Fiatdalys have an excellent online shopping system.

My underside is NOT a smooth 'tray'

But a series of 'boxes'..

Makes me confused.. on the odd occasion I see the underside..

Oh .. and the Royal Enfield exhaust
Other than the 24mm deep socket I had to buy to get the oil filter housing off its fairly standard stuff. 17mm socket for the sump plug and a 16mm to take the bolt out of the bar that sits underneath the sump. In the TA guide on here they mention the difficulty of getting the filter housing out but the Punto has enough space behind the engine that this isn't a problem at all, just comes straight out. Getting the filter out of the housing however, found that to be a pain!

The forums version of ePER is dated 2005 and the Grande's didn't use the underbody plastics of the later Puntos. I think it is probably could be described as boxes but I think its all one piece nonetheless.

That website is very useful though! Found it P/N 51 899 571. Ä100 though, was hoping it'd be about half that, doesn't even including the fixings Can't seem to find it for sale anywhere else either
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Re: 2013 Unplugged Green Punto Twinair

Have you changed the pollen: cabin filter

I changed mine yesterday.. 1st on a punto for me

I used Andys youtube guide

.. was a typical FIAT 5.5MM HEX HEAD screw retaining the cover.. so as expected..

The 2 things that were odd:

Old filter was damp:wet at one edge.. weather hasnt been great.. but scuttle drains should be clear.. can it get damp through aircon..condensing..??

The filter was a denso brand.. pretty grubby

Wouldnt be too surprised if it was the factory original.. despite FSH.. at 3 different places

Thats why I am attempting my own servicing again .. Marelli filter this time

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Re: 2013 Unplugged Green Punto Twinair

I have actually, I did that back when I got my A/C recharged as the fan blew a little weak.
The same 5.5mm hex was on mine, bit of a pain, had to dig through a drawer full of old tools to find one.
Mine wasn't wet although hadn't had any rain, it was a filthy shade of black and full of small bits of leaf.
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Re: 2013 Unplugged Green Punto Twinair

The actual MPG matched the computer for once, 48.5mpg which is the best I've done over a tank so far, mostly motorway work.

On wet mornings its started squeaking for the first ~20 seconds, not a squeal just a quiet squeaking. Could be aux belt I haven't checked yet, seems odd for it to be going this early. In my experience they usually wear due to age rather than mileage and it's only 6 years old!
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Re: 2013 Unplugged Green Punto Twinair

Well its still got all the oil in it and its still a nice goldeny colour although the sh** dipstick makes it impossible to tell.
I forgot to post here, just before I did the oil change I sanded a part of the dipstick to make it easier to read.



Planning on changing the plugs before the weather gets too cold as the service history doesn't specifically mention them being changed the invoices just say 'service'.

Anybody know what plugs they used from factory and the gapping? Thanks
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Re: 2013 Unplugged Green Punto Twinair

Ask about plugs on modern panda section..

Mine is on its 4th set.. they have a hard life.. so I get them done early.

Memories of bad plugs killing coil packs.. and burning ECU terminals punto2

£20 Extra per year seems a good trade

Had my 1st trip in a while last night..

Abingdon to Abertillery.. ( other Alphabet letters are available.. )
1.5 hrs of 70 along the M4

Trip shuffled briefly from 51.6 to 51.9 then back to 51.6

Im fine with that. supermarket basics all its 50k


Mine does squeak at times..
strangely.. it was quiet today.. in the mist up a mountain..
but last nights run would have helped
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Scraped through the MOT needed front discs/pads imminently. They'll have to wait till payday. Annoyingly about 2-3 days after the MOT I heard an occasional scraping, had a look and the undertray was hanging down at the back. The MOT garage shouldn't have touched it as they aren't allowed to remove anything?
It's been attached without incident since my oil change, perhaps its just coincidence and it caught on something.
Its torn the two screws out at the back to will need replacing/repairing before I can refit

Another interesting tidbit, whilst coasting toward a red light I knocked the car into neutral, braking gently and the start/stop cut in? It immediately restarted itself but was very strange whilst moving, I thought it was only ever supposed to activate with the handbrake on
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I thought it was only ever supposed to activate with the handbrake on
Not exclusively..

If you stall

it will flick it over as soon as you depress the clutch
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Re: 2013 Unplugged Green Punto Twinair

Fitted an intake out of lockdown boredom. IMO it sounds great although ditching the air box which has tonnes of sound insulation under it has made the valvetrain noise more noticeable at slow speeds. Canít get enough of the turbo flutter though!
I monitored intake temps on my OBD gauge before for about a week and after and itís not raised at all honestly, I think the intercooler is more than enough for the engine.

However not all is well in Punto land. Iím still working every other day as an Ďessential workerí but my commute has cut from a 30minute drive to just 10minutes which means on a chilly morning by the time I get to work the car has only been at operating temps for 2-3mins, this has been ongoing for the last 5 weeks. On Thursday leaving work it really struggled to start, I was turning it over but it just didnít want to catch. After letting off the key to give the starter a chance to cool each time Iíd get a start/stop unavailable message. On the 4th attempt it kind of coughed into life idling at about 700rpm with my foot fully on the throttle, eventually it brought itself up to speed and drove fine, I gave it a 20min blast up the motorways in 5th to keep the revs high.
Not sure what to blame the issue on, battery is the obvious but it cranks just as fast as usual. It started fine when I tried on Friday, usually only taking 1sec of turning the key to kick into life.
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Well after 3 more days of faultless driving it did something weird again today, it started but a bit slower than usual, had to hold it on the starter for ~5secs. The Speedo and rev counter needles were jumping up and then falling back down to 0 very quickly over and over accompanied by a clicking (like a relay). They stopped doing it after a few seconds and then all was normal...
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Re: 2013 Unplugged Green Punto Twinair

Seems you might have a dodgy battery.
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Re: 2013 Unplugged Green Punto Twinair

The correct battery is @£60

So not a disaster..

TBH Im expecting mine to fail soon.. its done next to no miles in the last 3 months
So its 8 years may be up..

Although trips to tend to be between 1/2 hour and 3 hours

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Re: 2013 Unplugged Green Punto Twinair

Yep seems battery related. I have an OBD gauge as a permanent setup in the car which shows oil temp, map sensor and voltage. Usually the battery is charging at 13.6-13.7v (this is normal on a TA, they have a ‘smart’ alternator which varies output dependant on charge), jumping up to 14v when cruising or 14.5v coasting.
This has been a constant ever since I got the car but today I kept an eye on it on a 20mile trip and the entire journey it was charging at 14.3v, it’s never dipped below that so I’m taking that as the car seeing a low state of charge...

I’ll leave it for 24hours or so and check the voltage with a multimeter with the engine off and some accessories switched on to confirm.
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Re: 2013 Unplugged Green Punto Twinair

I’ve let it sit about 48 hours and tested voltage;

With the battery sat in situ as is I got 12.44, seems ok to me after sitting a few days?


With mainbeam on, rear demister and interior fan at max it dipped to 11.5


Is that an acceptable drop? This is of course without the engine having been started. I know during cranking a battery can drop as low as 9v without there being any problems with the battery. Not sure what voltage to expect with this load.
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