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Re: 2013 Unplugged Green Punto Twinair

Yes I've seen Andy's guide, looks nice and easy. This has FSH, main dealer up to 40k, third parties for the last 18k.

The dealership I purchased from, although they seem reputable and have slapped a warranty on, claim to have just serviced it but the oil doesn't look brand new,
its hard to tell with the twinair's dipstick being about as much use as a chocolate ashtray on a motorbike. Seriously who decided to use a textured brown piece of plastic as a dipstick?!

I'm planning on doing an oil change myself to be certain and to be sure it has the correct spec in it too.
Noticed its got a bloody undertray though, which never seem to come off easily in my experience and make the job 3x longer.
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Re: 2013 Unplugged Green Punto Twinair

I've got a video on sorting out the weak air con as well, The Aircon is very good on these cars when charged up.

Given the lack of care given by garages to the Twinair system its well worth doing your own oil change. I think that there is a small separate little filter for the oil going to the valve system, might be worth changing that as well, just to cover all the bases.
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Re: 2013 Unplugged Green Punto Twinair

Yes.

500 section has SOME good TA service info.

But if I ever get to do my servicing again.. I will document things like the panda stuff ..

My aircon has never been great.. but being a cheap FIAT owner..I have little to compare it to

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2 fridge freezers struggling : puddles on the floor

Working Aircon : pluddles on the floor


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Re: 2013 Unplugged Green Punto Twinair

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Noticed its got a bloody undertray though, which never seem to come off easily in my experience and make the job 3x longer.
Before you go to the effort of removing it have a good look underneath. The Mazda one has strategically placed windows/flaps in it for service items so you only take the whole thing off for major work.

You never know someone at Fiat might have considered the poor sod servicing it.
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Re: 2013 Unplugged Green Punto Twinair

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Before you go to the effort of removing it have a good look underneath. The Mazda one has strategically placed windows/flaps in it for service items so you only take the whole thing off for major work.

You never know someone at Fiat might have considered the poor sod servicing it.
In this case they donít the whole undertray is one piece and it screws into the wheel arche liners, front bumper and back of subframe. With mine I also had to remove the wheel arch liner on the drivers side just to change the oil
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In this case they donít the whole undertray is one piece and it screws into the wheel arche liners, front bumper and back of subframe. With mine I also had to remove the wheel arch liner on the drivers side just to change the oil
That sounds convenient...
At least yours likely has a metal dipstick with a crosshatched area for easy reading. Or did they only save that for the 1.2/1.4 petrols
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My A.C. is still cold but am going to regas it as it takes a while to chill after parking in the sun.

Pollen filter.. sure Andy did a guide for that.
I did a guide for both
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Re: 2013 Unplugged Green Punto Twinair

Quick Update;

Over 1200 miles I've average 41mpg lots of that being stop/start town work. I think its pretty close to what my 1.4 8v did on my old GP.

Fitted an AUX lead that I adapted from the one I had in my Forfour (same plug just switched the bridged pins that make the HU know its plugged in).

Got oil + filter so will be doing an oil change very soon. Undertray doesn't have any flaps but it looks to be held on by 9 phillips screws so should be easy to drop.

Bought some clic-r pliers to take the airbox off, hilarious amount of noise insulation plastered to the bottom of it. Quite a strange design and makes changing the air filter a pain, 4 bolts to remove the box and then a further 6(?) to remove the filter cover.

Got the A/C recharged, its better but not outstanding although given we've had temperatures in the high 20's to low 30's I might let it off.
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Re: 2013 Unplugged Green Punto Twinair

Pretty sure my aircon was at that level from day 1..

The panda TA is noticably better..
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Re: 2013 Unplugged Green Punto Twinair

So I've run into the first signs of trouble.

Firstly I attempted my oil change (after buying a 24mm socket to undo the oil filter housing). Got the car jacked up and the undertray off with relative ease to find the sump plug to be in a ridiculous place and blocked by a bar thing...



Looking at it from the front above and from the back of the car below;



My deep 17mm socket isn't quite deep enough to reach past the bar and adding an extension is creating too much play to turn it as its been done up with a rattle gun no doubt. my breaker bar is waay too long to get in there given the weird position of the sump plug.
I will find a solution for this so no major worry but today after a few short trips in the car I started it and 'Stop/Start Unavailable' followed by 'Check Engine' popped up with the EML on.

Stop/Start error has appeared before, as I've mentioned its never worked but the check engine light is new. Car drove fine but the interior fan wouldn't come on. Stopped and restarted the car after a few miles and the same errors came up but interior fan working again.
Ran an ODB scan and got U3010 which my reader in unable to clear.

Any idea? I'm going to buy a ODB tool I can use with MES.
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Re: 2013 Unplugged Green Punto Twinair

Undo the bolt on one end of the bar and pull it back and out of the way, see my grande oil change video where I had to do the same.

U error codes are usually related to the canbus network itself. They can also be specific to one car.

If you have MES or are getting it, this should give you more info.
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Re: 2013 Unplugged Green Punto Twinair

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Undo the bolt on one end of the bar and pull it back and out of the way, see my grande oil change video where I had to do the same.
Thanks for that, you're a star. I assumed the bar was under some sort of tension and if I unbolted it I wouldn't be able to get it back on again!


The EML went out the day after it appeared, I think it may have just been something on CANBUS picking up the interior fan not turning that one time.

I got a compatible OBD reader but to connect to my ECU I need a registered version of MES which is a little pricey IMO. I'd happily pay for the software if it were half the price!
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Re: 2013 Unplugged Green Punto Twinair

A lot of cars just don't suit that colour, but I have to say that looks really good, love it!
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Re: 2013 Unplugged Green Punto Twinair

Oil change complete. The oil didn't look too old but definitely the wrong grade.



The useless dipstick is now even more useless, the new much more golden coloured oil is virtually indistinguishable so I put 3L in and just hoped for the best. Very alarmingly after priming the oil filter I started it up and it made an almighty clatter, switched it straight off and investigated. I forgot to swing the metal brace/arm back and bolt it on so it was rattling against the bottom of the exhaust
Now is running smooth again and sounds less clattery on a cold start. I will investigate the oil strainer thingy soon too.

Did my first fill up after 2 weeks of entirely start/stop traffic and only achieved 34mpg, I was entirely expecting these levels of economy having read up on it but I despise Fiat for selling this as a 61mpg car.
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Re: 2013 Unplugged Green Punto Twinair

The car has been missing some underbody trim/cladding since I got it on the N/S. It runs from the back of the front wheel to the front of the rear wheel and covers the underside of the car up to the exhaust tunnel. Its like an undertray but for the entire car I guess, one on each side of the exhaust.

I can't seem to find a P/N for this and I'm not entirely sure what its called in order to search for one. Anyone got a more up to date eper?
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