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Old 01-03-2019   #16
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Re: FIAT Cinquecento Trofeo Stradale

What a cracking little car! Really like how you have approached the chassis first.
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Old 08-05-2019   #17
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Re: FIAT Cinquecento Trofeo Stradale

Time for an update.

I changed the brake pads to Ferodo DS Performance. To be honest I haven't experienced any increase in stopping power and the pads feel a bit wooden even after bedding-in. Standard pads felt softer with better initial bite. I guess that the only advantage of DSPF pads is better thermal resistance because they don't squeal and the standard ones do a bit once I get them properly hot.

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I fixed the issue that troubled me the most: front control arm backward movement. Because of the failed PU bushing design there weren't enough means to keep the control arms seated forward. I tried various configurations but control arms still moved.

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I solved it with an idea to put the thick washers (that usually live under the rear hub nuts) between the back of the control arm and the rear bushing. They were just the right thickness to fill the gap. Now the control arms stay where they should and I could make a final wheel alignment. I'm not going to buy StrongFlex ever again.

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Last weekend I did my first track day in this car. Finished 31st out of 50. Cento did it without any problems. For the first time I had someone to film the car from outside. I concluded that I could help things with adding a rear stabilizer bar, a proper bucket seat (narrowed Sporting seat is not enough), lower rear springs and camber plates up front. Not to mention a more powerful engine.

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Add lightness.

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It's light enough to be only 5 seconds slower (on a 2 minute lap) than a new 500 S with twice the bhp per ton.

There is room for improvement to have more control, it's rather soft for track use.
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that's a real concept, isn't it...!

'add lightness..'
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Looks like I'll be doing a re-shell sooner than expected. The most annoying thing, apart form loosing the rest of the season, is that it happened on a slow corner when I was just going home. The rear lost traction suddenly, impossible in dry conditions at such speed. It's clear to me the road was smeared with something or simply damp in that spot.

Won't be repairing, too rusty and expensive to do, I planned to bin this shell anyway. I recently bought a bunch of stuff that will need to wait: front camber plates, rear anti-roll bar kit, a complete 1.4 16v swap. Now I can get a 1.2 16v from Mk1 Punto Sporting. I like the idea of a revvy motor so I guess the 1.4 will go to someone else. Either way, the next Cento will be a ground-up build with everything I had in mind so this thread is far from over.
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No worries 'cos I've just bought this.

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Did they use these wheels only in Punto Sporting?

Originally imported from Brescia, very little rust but neglected overall. It's my first contact with this engine and now I can say it's a little gem, urgent, high revving, it will be more than enough for the lighter Cinquecento on a twisty mountain road. The only thing holding it back is the 5-speed box which always tries to keep the engine around 3-4k while it should stay at it's best around 5-6k. I need to find the 13/64 6-speed, it tops out at around 125 mph depending on the tyre, right at the limit of this engine and it's pointless to go faster in a Cinquecento. Then it should run like this :

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Same wheels also used on the Punto GT and Cabriolet ELX trim.
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a 1242 16v cinq is a great fun thing
this is my old one here https://www.fiatforum.com/cinquecent...ml#post3399395
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I have a 1.4 ready to be swapped but I think the 176B9000 will be better suited for the Cinquecento. Meanwhile I guess I will keep the Punto since it has very little rust (plus a working aircon) and put the 1.4 in it instead.
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i do have a soft spot for the mk1 16v engine, but it would be a real shame to rip up a good condition mk1 - they are pretty rare these days, or are here in the UK at least.
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Does anybody know if I can move an aircon compressor from a 1.2 16v 85 block to a 1.4 16v block?
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