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Re: RuSZ' Stilo 1.8 16v Dynamic

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Managed to get a few little things done today

Changed the front badge from the broken one to a replacement. Cheers @wrightyy

And got the stereo change from the original to my usual model

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Nicely done mate. Faded badging always drags a car's image right down, so having some nice new shiny badging is a proper facelift. If you followed my thread it was one of the first things I did on the Abarth is update the Abarth badging.

Interesting stereo choice. I need to do something with mine to drag it into the 21st century. I dont know if I like the single din thing as you end up with a vast amount of naked plastic real estate that I dont know if I fancy.
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Re: RuSZ' Stilo 1.8 16v Dynamic

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Nicely done mate. Faded badging always drags a car's image right down, so having some nice new shiny badging is a proper facelift. If you followed my thread it was one of the first things I did on the Abarth is update the Abarth badging.

Interesting stereo choice. I need to do something with mine to drag it into the 21st century. I dont know if I like the single din thing as you end up with a vast amount of naked plastic real estate that I dont know if I fancy.
Personally I think the stilo looks better with the front badge. Was originally thinking of a badgless grill but not too keen on them.

I was thinking that the radio looks weird and has a lot of plastic showing. But I've had that radio for a year and didn't fancy changing it as it's Bluetooth, dab and does pretty much everything I need.

Was thinking of the cubby hole one but last time I had one of those stuff had a habit of sliding out of them and they weren't very big/practical.

I'm think if a sat nav double din unit in the future at which point I'd change the facia, but that's not for a while yet
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Personally I think the stilo looks better with the front badge. Was originally thinking of a badgless grill but not too keen on them.

I was thinking that the radio looks weird and has a lot of plastic showing. But I've had that radio for a year and didn't fancy changing it as it's Bluetooth, dab and does pretty much everything I need.

Was thinking of the cubby hole one but last time I had one of those stuff had a habit of sliding out of them and they weren't very big/practical.

I'm think if a sat nav double din unit in the future at which point I'd change the facia, but that's not for a while yet

I'm experimenting - if you can call it that - with a CN+ at the moment :-)
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I'm experimenting - if you can call it that - with a CN+ at the moment :-)
Well ive not even managed to get this standard radio working. Keeps blowing the 10a fuse on the dash fuse box. :bangshead:
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Got the exhaust system hole sorted out. No more blowing and rumbling.

Quite sad really as he raspy noise had grown on me a bit. Haha.

But with plenty of exhaust sealant on the joint it's now sounding like a standard exhaust again. Although the 1.8 does seem to have a little bit of rasp to it.

Thinking of a exhaust system in the future.

But don't think I'll go down the intake pipe route if the MAP sensors are a but weak.

But with my daily routine meaning I'm up and driving at 5am I quiet happy to be able to get up and not wake-up the street



Ohh.. on another note. I can't seem to get the head unit to work. Keeps blowing the 10a fuse.

On the white connector block there's 5 cables on the adapter there's 4. 2 power (red and yellow) and earth (black) anda blue on for something.

On the fiat block I know that the red and yellow are the same one (pulled together) as it doesn't use an Acc live from the ignition so that's just to the red cable on the body and the earth is the black. But what are the others?
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You've identified the main wires there.

Probably be illumination, won't it?

ISO wiring plug for power has 8 pins. Three of them don't usually do anything or are remote mute switches for hands free jobbies.

Then, in no particular order you tend to have (for ISO):

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Got the exhaust system hole sorted out. No more blowing and rumbling.

Quite sad really as he raspy noise had grown on me a bit. Haha.

But with plenty of exhaust sealant on the joint it's now sounding like a standard exhaust again. Although the 1.8 does seem to have a little bit of rasp to it.

Thinking of a exhaust system in the future.

But don't think I'll go down the intake pipe route if the MAP sensors are a but weak.

But with my daily routine meaning I'm up and driving at 5am I quiet happy to be able to get up and not wake-up the street



Ohh.. on another note. I can't seem to get the head unit to work. Keeps blowing the 10a fuse.

On the white connector block there's 5 cables on the adapter there's 4. 2 power (red and yellow) and earth (black) anda blue on for something.

On the fiat block I know that the red and yellow are the same one (pulled together) as it doesn't use an Acc live from the ignition so that's just to the red cable on the body and the earth is the black. But what are the others?
Did you install and wire your new single din stereo? If so where have you picked up the switched live feed from?

I guess you've used this unit before in other cars, I think you said you have... so we can probably assume it's not an issue with the stereo. There should be a fuse on the back of the stereo too so if that was sucking too much juice it'd blow that fuse too where it's the car fuse we're seeing popping.

If you run it in "20 minute mode" i.e. ignition off just listening to the stereo does the fuse still pop?

Was it popping fuses on the factory head unit?
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Did you install and wire your new single din stereo? If so where have you picked up the switched live feed from?

I guess you've used this unit before in other cars, I think you said you have... so we can probably assume it's not an issue with the stereo. There should be a fuse on the back of the stereo too so if that was sucking too much juice it'd blow that fuse too where it's the car fuse we're seeing popping.

If you run it in "20 minute mode" i.e. ignition off just listening to the stereo does the fuse still pop?

Was it popping fuses on the factory head unit?
Fuse on the head unit ok. That's a 10a fuse as well.

All wiring is from the two blocks on the car. The speaker ones haven't been touched, they match the others.

It's just the power block that doesn't appear to match.

There's no 20 minute mode on the HU and requires the live cable to be active from the ignition.

Won't even turn on, just blows the body fuse when wired up.

I'll get some photos when I'm home from work tonight.

Yeah had the HU for a little while and wired it onto a few cars without fault.
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You've identified the main wires there.

Probably be illumination, won't it?

ISO wiring plug for power has 8 pins. Three of them don't usually do anything or are remote mute switches for hands free jobbies.

Then, in no particular order you tend to have (for ISO):

+12v constant
+12v ACC (switched)
GND
Illumination
+12v to antenna
Yeah fiat have 2 iso blocks.

The speaker on I've left untouched

The other block has 8 ports, but 5 wires.

The adapter takes the 2 fiat iso connectors down to one.

The 8 pin power adaptor has 4 wires

2 power (red and yellow) the red one matches the location of the red one on the fiat block (but allows the red and yellow to be connected together.

1 black earth (matches fiats location)

1 blue/white cable that doesn't match fiat at all.

Not using an ignition live so won't come on automatically
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Yeah fiat have 2 iso blocks.

The speaker on I've left untouched

The other block has 8 ports, but 5 wires.

The adapter takes the 2 fiat iso connectors down to one.

The 8 pin power adaptor has 4 wires

2 power (red and yellow) the red one matches the location of the red one on the fiat block (but allows the red and yellow to be connected together.

1 black earth (matches fiats location)

1 blue/white cable that doesn't match fiat at all.

Not using an ignition live so won't come on automatically
The blue cable is the signal wire for an Amplifier - it will tell the amp to turn on when the stereo comes on.

Dont worry about blue wire, make sure yellow and red on stereo are mated together, then make sure they join as one to the permanent live on the stilo iso end.

If the fuse keeps blowing, check the positon of the fuse on the head unit, some head units have three holes for the fuse (like a jumper setting) as some manufacturers use negative earths and the opposite - like VW for instance.

If i was to put my old sony unit into the VW then i would have to move the fuse across one pin... see if it has that.
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The blue cable is the signal wire for an Amplifier - it will tell the amp to turn on when the stereo comes on.

Dont worry about blue wire, make sure yellow and red on stereo are mated together, then make sure they join as one to the permanent live on the stilo iso end.

If the fuse keeps blowing, check the positon of the fuse on the head unit, some head units have three holes for the fuse (like a jumper setting) as some manufacturers use negative earths and the opposite - like VW for instance.

If i was to put my old sony unit into the VW then i would have to move the fuse across one pin... see if it has that.
Good thought on the fuse position. However on the Stilo fuse box as far as I can tell it's a single position 10a mini blade fuse. No alternative slot of it to move into.

I'll get some photos in a little while.

Didn't think the blue was a remote for an amp as it matched up with a position on my last car (Mondeo) and the car before that (Laguna) and neither had on board amps.

Thought remote normally weren't built into the blocks. hmmm.

But your most likely right.
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Good thought on the fuse position. However on the Stilo fuse box as far as I can tell it's a single position 10a mini blade fuse. No alternative slot of it to move into.

I'll get some photos in a little while.

Didn't think the blue was a remote for an amp as it matched up with a position on my last car (Mondeo) and the car before that (Laguna) and neither had on board amps.

Thought remote normally weren't built into the blocks. hmmm.

But your most likely right.
The amp remote signal wire will be wired into the head unit side of the ISO on all stereos that support an amplifier output... the Stilo does not have a remote wire on the iso of the car - mine doesnt, i suspect that only the models with the built in amp have this.

Orange is for illumination and dimming of the bulbs when headlights are on.

The fuse position is not changed in the fuse box but might be moveable on the back of the stereo.

Most newer stereo's have it done automatically (i dont know how it works) but my older stereos have 3 holes for the fuse on the back of the head units, also check the installation guide as it will explain it in there if you need to swap the fuse to the next pin across.
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Remote for the BOSE systems and similar fitted across the Alfa and Fiat models should be wired into the 3 mini-block connectors. Something like pin 3 on the green connector or something I think. The systems dont seem particularly common on the Stilo though.

D Timmins is still correct though as he will be referring to the +12v antenna, like the remote switch for the power antenna - remember the old skool cars with powered up and down aerials - it'd be the switch for that and when modding can be used for the amp switch.

Stilo is a little bit cocked up compared to genuine ISO model with it being canbus unit.

I would say if it's easy to do remove the jump between your switched and permanent live and check that doesn't make the difference; otherwise you probably are looking for an actual short somewhere.

If it turns out your looking for an actual short unless something is obvious I'd wire in a new pair of switched and permanent lives from the fuse box.
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So which matches which. (yellow & red are combined to make the yellow on the adapter).

EDIT.

I'm aware that the HU doesn't current have a 10a fuse connected. I ran out of them, so that's in the fuse box so I can use the standard unit

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So which matches which. (yellow & red are combined to make the yellow on the adapter).

EDIT.

I'm aware that the HU doesn't current have a 10a fuse connected. I ran out of them, so that's in the fuse box so I can use the standard unit

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Standard head unit works just fine, no fuse blowing, right?
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