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Re: 1988 Fiat Panda 4x4 Sisley "Four by Fork"

The journey to Yorkshire, firstly a stop off to my friend Matt's to see him and his 1000CL - picture complimentary of course!
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The second stop was needed after a long standstill on the M1, the car got a bit hot and bothered so a quick cool down and looping round the motorway for the next part of the journey did a lot of good and the car ran a dream after that.
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A third stop for a bit of food!
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And finally arrived, saying night to the Panda for now but looking forward to seeing the 4x4 group and get on the rougher stuff tomorrow. It's going to be a great experience for me and I hope to meet some new people at the same time
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Update time for the Four by Fork!

I haven't spoken on the thread since the 4x4 meet in Yorkshire. Overall it was a great success for the car, and the sump guard addition proved well as it gained a lot of scratches and dents! It has been cleaned up now, ready for another 4x4 meet I reckon. I'd like to get to the next meet in September, however already planned something for the weekend, so I am going to see if I can work around it and get there. It would be great to meet all the 4x4 lot and get muddy again. Speaking of mud, I still need to clean the car of all the Yorkshire mud that has been caked on... it has made good conversation at car meets and such though

The car did have a slight starting issue after the meet, where the turn of the key didn't engage the starter motor, after a few turns it would start. This persisted so I cleaned various Earth connections on the car and also cleaned all the starter motor connections. The problem still happened once after so I removed the starter motor from the parts car ready to put on - now that I've done that though, I haven't had any issues starting since, and it's started a lot of times on the dot now... maybe the clean did help after all but we shall see :P

The most recent issue occurred when I got to work this morning, opened my door, got out and got all my stuff, then tried to shut the door but to no avail. A work mate thought it was the top hinge that had bent so I went to the workshop and got the tools to remove the bolts on it but turns out it wasn't the top hinge - hence I needed to take off the bottom hinge. Couldn't take it off from the side because the plastic piece needs the door shut to take it off. Couldn't take it off from the inside of the door because I didn't have the tools and it was going to rain as well so I didn't have much time. The verdict - hop in the car, and drive it to the workshop! I held the door tight, luckily it's only a few houses down the road, though the small Panda width means you don't go over the side of the road even with your door half open anyway. Once in the workshop, removed the door and then the plastic and bottom hinge. The issue was the metal spring plate thing had snapped off and fell into two pieces on the floor. It was jamming the door open when trying to shut it. The fix? Put it all back together and just leave the metal spring plate out. Sorted, and as good as ever!
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The car did have a slight starting issue after the meet, where the turn of the key didn't engage the starter motor, after a few turns it would start. This persisted so I cleaned various Earth connections on the car and also cleaned all the starter motor connections. The problem still happened once after so I removed the starter motor from the parts car ready to put on - now that I've done that though, I haven't had any issues starting since, and it's started a lot of times on the dot now... maybe the clean did help after all but we shall see :P
I had a similar thing with mine, getting nothing when turning the key. I got quite adept at getting out, whacking the starter motor with the little wheelbrace thing, then it would start fine. Then all of a sudden it stopped happening and has never done it since. All I can assume is that some muck must have got into it or something and caused it to stick, but a bit of use cleaned it out.
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Yes mud in the bendix ( the spiral that throws the gear into the fly wheel teeth can get blocked up with debris
Take off the starter give it a bath in diesel and oil mix. That should fix that
Owen you have a new (old) door hinge on the spares car don't you
Swop that out as that spring plate stop your door blowing open or swinging out on a hill it's a 20 min job .
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I had a similar thing with mine, getting nothing when turning the key. I got quite adept at getting out, whacking the starter motor with the little wheelbrace thing, then it would start fine. Then all of a sudden it stopped happening and has never done it since. All I can assume is that some muck must have got into it or something and caused it to stick, but a bit of use cleaned it out.
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Yes mud in the bendix ( the spiral that throws the gear into the fly wheel teeth can get blocked up with debris
Take off the starter give it a bath in diesel and oil mix.
Sounds like it was probably some kind of muck causing it after the meet then, as I expected with the earths and connections etc though likely to be in the spiral, must be cleaned up now then but if this occurs again then I know to give the starter a bath! Or use my nice spare one
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Owen you have a new (old) door hinge on the spares car don't you
Swop that out as that spring plate stop your door blowing open or swinging out on a hill it's a 20 min job .
I have another Panda that needs doors looking at and possibly needs new hinges too so the hinges from the parts car may well be used for that, in which case I won't have a spare plate - the door still acts the same as it did before so makes no difference to me. As long as it's not going to fly open around a corner... though I usually keep the driver door locked because that happened once before!
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A bit of an update on the Four by Fork now! I have been using this car as a daily since Pandino stood down to make way for me to work on a new red CLX which will be coming to another thread soon. With this, and the recent Staffordshire meet (which was a great load of fun may I had), I have now managed to find out what else needs doing!

Starting before the Staffordshire meet, it was time for a set of front pads as the old ones were getting a bit low. Didn't take too long, up in the air, wheel off, out the pins and free off the calliper, old pads out and new pads in, put it all back together!
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The Staffordshire meet was brilliant fun, the car performed well on standard tyres but beefy tyres have been added to the list. This will improve my performance in future meets. But I'm more than happy with what I achieved in the most recent action days and we had a blast
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As you may or may not know, I've attended a couple of meets this year in the Four by Fork, one of which was a Castle Combe event after the Yorkshire meet. This time, I took off to the Italian Breakfast Meet near Alton, though my steady progress on the M4 was abrupted when my nearside rear tyre very suddenly went flat at 70mph...
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That tyre had always gone down slightly where the others hadn't so I always suspected something was wrong but I could never find or hear a leak. The tyre was pumped up that morning so I wonder if that further unsettled what ever problem there was. Anyway, a quick jack up and wheel change later and we were back on the road! We made it to the meet and that was great as well, some lovely cars and great people
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At the workshop, a little inspection of my wheel by inflating it and seeing what happens. Seemed fine to start with, then turned it around... oh. This tyre is a bit dead So, along with beefy tyres, that's a winter tyre on the list as well! I've got a couple of spare wheels in the car but I'll probably change the old Bridgestone for a new Hankook soon (as they don't make Bridgestones 145 anymore for the winter Blizzak, only 155).
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At the Quarry during Freddy's meet, I had a loud rattling noise - Andy was quick to the rescue fishing out some rocks from my centre prop guard. Though that was not all, as on the journey back, I found my car was vibrating very awkwardly. I again suspected the prop but I wasn't sure on this one so I let Freddy test drive the car and he came back confirming the prop would need to come off. Big thanks to Freddy as he helped take my propshaft off with me and we found the rear universal joint had quite a bit of play! A new part from Freddy and a little help from a work mate later, we fit a new universal joint, and now all that needs to be done is re-fitting of the propshaft...
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Last but not least for pictures, the new wheels, thanks to Vernon for these as I picked them up at the Alton meet from him. They do not look the most perfect wheels ever, but they are straight and the valve holes are solid, so I'll be giving these a bit of a restoration soon ready for beefy tyres! Now the next part though... what colour paint to go for!?
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In the time since I've last updated, I've also fixed the nearside brake light bulb - turns out someone put a 24v bulb in there. That would explain it being half as bright... easy fix though! My father also helped my change my radio wiring loom. We had some spare wiring from another car and wanted to tidy up what we had. The main reason for the swap was for me to fix the plastic (the black radio housing was broken, we put my spare grey housing in, it fits in nicely with the Sisley grey dash liner) and also to fix the cigarette lighter as if I turned my headlights on the sat nav would stop charging using the lighter and the lighter would also not power a tyre inflator at any point. The new wiring now means that things are tidier, and I now have a working cigarette lighter at all times, which is what I wanted!

So the current plans are to refit the sump guard and propshaft again, find and fit a winter tyre to the original wheel, restore my new set of wheels and fit beefy tyres to them (Kobra Tracs), refurb the carb and a couple of other small tidying jobs. And by the time I'm half way through, I'll have another half of a list added to that list anyway!

In the meantime then, I'll consider what colour the new wheels are going to be
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Quote Originally Posted by FDNY21 View Post
A bit of an update on the Four by Fork now! I have been using this car as a daily since Pandino stood down to make way for me to work on a new red CLX which will be coming to another thread soon. With this, and the recent Staffordshire meet (which was a great load of fun may I had), I have now managed to find out what else needs doing!

Starting before the Staffordshire meet, it was time for a set of front pads as the old ones were getting a bit low. Didn't take too long, up in the air, wheel off, out the pins and free off the calliper, old pads out and new pads in, put it all back together!
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That'll allow a few extra miles
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The Staffordshire meet was brilliant fun, the car performed well on standard tyres but beefy tyres have been added to the list. This will improve my performance in future meets. But I'm more than happy with what I achieved in the most recent action days and we had a blast
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As you may or may not know, I've attended a couple of meets this year in the Four by Fork, one of which was a Castle Combe event after the Yorkshire meet. This time, I took off to the Italian Breakfast Meet near Alton, though my steady progress on the M4 was abrupted when my nearside rear tyre very suddenly went flat at 70mph...
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That tyre had always gone down slightly where the others hadn't so I always suspected something was wrong but I could never find or hear a leak. The tyre was pumped up that morning so I wonder if that further unsettled what ever problem there was. Anyway, a quick jack up and wheel change later and we were back on the road! We made it to the meet and that was great as well, some lovely cars and great people
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At the workshop, a little inspection of my wheel by inflating it and seeing what happens. Seemed fine to start with, then turned it around... oh. This tyre is a bit dead So, along with beefy tyres, that's a winter tyre on the list as well! I've got a couple of spare wheels in the car but I'll probably change the old Bridgestone for a new Hankook soon (as they don't make Bridgestones 145 anymore for the winter Blizzak, only 155).
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At the Quarry during Freddy's meet, I had a loud rattling noise - Andy was quick to the rescue fishing out some rocks from my centre prop guard. Though that was not all, as on the journey back, I found my car was vibrating very awkwardly. I again suspected the prop but I wasn't sure on this one so I let Freddy test drive the car and he came back confirming the prop would need to come off. Big thanks to Freddy as he helped take my propshaft off with me and we found the rear universal joint had quite a bit of play! A new part from Freddy and a little help from a work mate later, we fit a new universal joint, and now all that needs to be done is re-fitting of the propshaft...
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Last but not least for pictures, the new wheels, thanks to Vernon for these as I picked them up at the Alton meet from him. They do not look the most perfect wheels ever, but they are straight and the valve holes are solid, so I'll be giving these a bit of a restoration soon ready for beefy tyres! Now the next part though... what colour paint to go for!?
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In the time since I've last updated, I've also fixed the nearside brake light bulb - turns out someone put a 24v bulb in there. That would explain it being half as bright... easy fix though! My father also helped my change my radio wiring loom. We had some spare wiring from another car and wanted to tidy up what we had. The main reason for the swap was for me to fix the plastic (the black radio housing was broken, we put my spare grey housing in, it fits in nicely with the Sisley grey dash liner) and also to fix the cigarette lighter as if I turned my headlights on the sat nav would stop charging using the lighter and the lighter would also not power a tyre inflator at any point. The new wiring now means that things are tidier, and I now have a working cigarette lighter at all times, which is what I wanted!

So the current plans are to refit the sump guard and propshaft again, find and fit a winter tyre to the original wheel, restore my new set of wheels and fit beefy tyres to them (Kobra Tracs), refurb the carb and a couple of other small tidying jobs. And by the time I'm half way through, I'll have another half of a list added to that list anyway!

In the meantime then, I'll consider what colour the new wheels are going to be
Good work! Personally I think the cream wheels are lovely when they add nice and clean
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