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Re: New Panda Cross

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Itook mine over the Wrynose/Hardknott earlier this summer. It performed admirably - nimble as a mountain goat - and its narrowness was a great advantage on those narrow approach roads, especially when you don't know what's around the next corner. The drivers of bigger 4x4s looked terrified, tbh, as they just couldn't get close enough into the side to let other cars pass by. With its wing-mirrors folded in, the Panda is an incredibly narrow little beast.
We are in Devon and exactly why we both have Pandas (169s for us). The roads are either narrow or very narrow. We even have A roads with passing places. Many of our "C roads" have grass down the middle. I kid you not.
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I was seriously thinking of a yellow one, but something inside me told me "act your age".
You're as young as the car you drive! I'm an old(ish) fart, but I love confounding expectations by blatting around in my yellow Cross. I gave a barrister a lift to Norwich station today, and the look on his face when I showed him to my car was priceless! (I explained that I take my football allegiance very seriously, but it seemed lost on him, as he just said 'Watford?'. Then again, he may have been extracting the urine.)
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We are in Devon and exactly why we both have Pandas (169s for us). The roads are either narrow or very narrow. We even have A roads with passing places. Many of our "C roads" have grass down the middle. I kid you not.
Sounds a bit like my neck of the woods, in the wilds of NE Suffolk (although I'm struggling to think of an A road around here with passing places... sheesh!!)
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What a shame they cant up that limit for towing. I have no doubt at all that my Panda would pull my 1100 kg van no problem, but its just not possible so now considering a lighter van. Currently in the van in pouring rain and thinking it might be difficult to get off the site next week with the Bravo.....
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What a shame they cant up that limit for towing. I have no doubt at all that my Panda would pull my 1100 kg van no problem...
Only way to 'up that limit' is to make the Panda heavier at the factory. It is generally recommended that a trailer (with brakes) should not weigh more than 85% of the weight of the towing vehicle, and the trailer must not weight more than the car (a Panda 4x4 TA weighs just over a tonne). Note that the trailer limit is 800kg for Pandas with 1.2 or TwinAir Engines, but that the MultiJet can tow 900kg because it weighs a little more to start with (1115kg).
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Sounds a bit like my neck of the woods, in the wilds of NE Suffolk (although I'm struggling to think of an A road around here with passing places... sheesh!!)
I was thinking of the A382 across the east side of Dartmoor. It's stunning scenery but turn up on a big motorbike and get stopped by a tour bus coming though a narrow section and ... Bikes don't do reverse gear and big one can't be heaved uphill without help. And don't forget the steep camber for putting your foot down.

The Panda 169 is perfect for tucking out of the way.
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I was thinking of the A382 across the east side of Dartmoor. It's stunning scenery but turn up on a big motorbike and get stopped by a tour bus coming though a narrow section and ... Bikes don't do reverse gear and big one can't be heaved uphill without help. And don't forget the steep camber for putting your foot down.

The Panda 169 is perfect for tucking out of the way.
Well Dave McT you have made me think a bit more about bikers and the problems you mention never crossed my mind. My motorcycling was limited to 15000 miles on a Honda 90..... Thanks for a good post.
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You're as young as the car you drive! I'm an old(ish) fart, but I love confounding expectations by blatting around in my yellow Cross. I gave a barrister a lift to Norwich station today, and the look on his face when I showed him to my car was priceless! (I explained that I take my football allegiance very seriously, but it seemed lost on him, as he just said 'Watford?'. Then again, he may have been extracting the urine.)
Urine or Primrose yellow Panda extract. Watford...... HUH!
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Well Dave McT you have made me think a bit more about bikers and the problems you mention never crossed my mind. My motorcycling was limited to 15000 miles on a Honda 90..... Thanks for a good post.
Big bikes are great and I love my BMW 1200 boxer twin, but they are heavy kit and riders need to think a (very) long way ahead.

I had a problem with a bus on the A382. I stopped on a down-hill to give space then realised I was still in the way. The only option was to go closer to the bus (forcing him to stop) so I could safely get off and reverse the bike out of the way. The bike weighs 1/4 ton and needs level ground to put the stand down before I could safely climb off. Steep camber to the left and downhill are both a total no-no. Bikes don't have a handbrake and the stand is left side only. They need extendable stands on both sides then you can safely park anywhere but no bike has them.

Another time on a single track lane downhill, I had a car reversing into me to make space for oncoming cars. Horn on full blast had no effect. He woke up when he hit my front wheel. Brakes were on hard so no harm done. The driver had stopped dead leaving me with adequate stopping space but no chance to get off and move the bike.

To be honest, a Panda 4x4 can probably get to many more places than that hulk of a bike can get to. But with plonkers like the van driver you still need a mega horn or be buying new bumpers every few months.
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