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Old 10-08-2015   #16
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Is the fan working poperly? If it is then it'll most likely be the guage that is out and nothing to worry about as the others have said. No harm in confirming that with a thermometer though, it's exactly what I would do
I'm pretty sure I remember it kicking in. I'll check anyway.

Clutch has been dispatched, should be with me tomorrow
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Old 11-08-2015   #17
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I have received the Clutch but looks like I misread the ebay description

Thought it was a Valeo due to the title but its actually an 'Aisin'

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As you can see its to replace a Valeo not actually a Valeo By the time I muck about getting it refunded I may as well keep it.. Oh well its a new Clutch!
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So, going to order a new clutch cable and get that done while we're replacing the clutch and have found this PN in eper: 7555958. Having looked on ebay I have only found foreign sellers which leads me to the question, was the LHD and RHD cable the same?
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No, RHD is longer as it has fiurther to go from the pedal to the clutch arm.

Will either be this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MOTAQUIP-C...item43de5094ec

or this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FIAT-PANDA...item35d380237c

You can easily tell by looking on the bulkhead where the cable comes through, you will either see a white plastic piece or the metal elbow.
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Congratulations on the purchase, all the jobs sound fun..
When you do the clutch look at why it's slipping. If not hugely worn, I'd guess oil contamination from a leaking gearbox input shaft seal. As the engine and box are out, easy to do (2x10mm bolts).
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Petrol leaking from tank on fill up... Yes, I think something like this has happened to me - you need an AndyPanda4x4 to take the weight of the tank (it's okay to leave it full) while you reattach the breather pipe.
- Doable in a car park.
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Petrol leaking from tank on fill up... Yes, I think something like this has happened to me - you need an AndyPanda4x4 to take the weight of the tank (it's okay to leave it full) while you reattach the breather pipe.
- Doable in a car park.
It's even doable wearing a boiler suit in +30 degree heat surrounded by other Panda enthusiasts at the side of a football pitch

Oh and I like the fact that's also "okay to leave it full" Andy!!
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Re: Axel the Sisley 4x4

So, I've been purchasing some items for our little clutch replacement at the weekend and have bought the following parts:

Clutch Kit
Engine Mounts
Clutch Cable
Manifold gasket

Can anyone think of anything else I could buy?
@andyholli mentioned a gearbox input shaft seal but I'm unsure if this is the correct part:

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Gearbox oil. Recommendations anyone? Coolant (you'll be disconnecting all the hoses if you're lifting the engine out)
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Re: Axel the Sisley 4x4

I've done clutch on the Black one about 3 years ago, engine was still in - but well supported on DIY crossbeams. As engine guard bolts are still fresh should be easy to undo them.

Nice access to flywheel and g/b input shaft seal. While youre there, have a good look on the crankshaft seal as well as clutch lever top plastic bush.
Inspect flywheel for small centrifugal cracks.

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I'm unsure if this is the correct part:

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Yes, that's it. Nla from Fiat last time I checked but my factors matched the inner seal which push fits into the mounting tube.

I'm not being drawn on the oil question.

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My old Sisley used to leak fuel above half full - when I got the tank out I saw it has corroded all round the centre seam - hopefully yours isn't as serious!
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My old Sisley used to leak fuel above half full - when I got the tank out I saw it has corroded all round the centre seam - hopefully yours isn't as serious!

I can't imagine that. The previous owner who has a thread up here (it was called Englebert) had stripped the fuel tank and refurbished it. There are pics in the thread.
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So clutch replaced. Managed to replace the outer gearbox seal but didn't manage to do the bearing behind it. Managed to swap both engine mounts too.

Seem to have an earth issue however. Starter doesn't appear to start the engine every time. It just clicks, a couple of tries later and fires up fine. Also got the battery warning light coming on. We've checked the earths and also replaced the negative lead from the battery. We also replaced the alternator but still comes on (albeit much dimmer than before). Anyone got any idea's?

PS Many Many thanks to @AndyPanda4x4 for his fantastic help this weekend!
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Starter doesn't appear to start the engine every time. It just clicks, a couple of tries later and fires up fine. Also got the battery warning light coming on. We've checked the earths and also replaced the negative lead from the battery. We also replaced the alternator but still comes on (albeit much dimmer than before). Anyone got any idea's?
Have you swapped the battery for a good known working one, the amount of times I've known starting issues with starter motor clicking etc and it just turns out the battery is on its last legs, often it'll output normal voltage but can be knackered. If you haven't already I'd definitely try another good battery on it to see if it solves the issues
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