Register Login
iNETFX Domain Registration - COM/NET/ORG £6.50 a year!
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 22-01-2015   #1
Small Fiat Fanatic
 
Squadrone Rosso's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Nr.Neath & Swansea, Wales
Posts: 1,252
Thanks: 81
Trader Rating: 0
Squadrone Rosso has donated!
United Kingdom 
Chichi, the Angry Panda

Took delivery this afternoon. She's a Twinair Cross in Tuscany Green with winter & comfort packs, reversing sensors and rear privacy glass.

Had sill kick plates, matts, boot liner & the Panda B pillar badges fitted by the dealer.

She replaces my beloved 500 Twinair Plus which is going to a good friend (the best pound for pound car I've ever owned - I'll really miss it)

Early impressions are very solid & grown up. Nice controls, great driving position and a good drive. Quieter than I was expecting too, especially given the reviews & the semi-serious rubber.

Bring on the snow!

Here are some pics:-

Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByFIAT Forum1421947207.321166.jpg
Views:	366
Size:	792.2 KB
ID:	148718

Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByFIAT Forum1421947240.476150.jpg
Views:	353
Size:	749.5 KB
ID:	148719

Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByFIAT Forum1421947282.010095.jpg
Views:	316
Size:	880.6 KB
ID:	148720

Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByFIAT Forum1421947316.803557.jpg
Views:	313
Size:	875.2 KB
ID:	148721

Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByFIAT Forum1421947421.818538.jpg
Views:	266
Size:	840.9 KB
ID:	148723

Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByFIAT Forum1421947358.034696.jpg
Views:	329
Size:	895.9 KB
ID:	148722

I'll keep you posted

Cheers,
__________________
Simon
Green Fiat Panda Cross TA ~ Red Seicento Abarth ~ Red Alfa Romeo Spider Series 4 ~ Silver/Black Toyota C-HR Hybrid
Squadrone Rosso is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 22-01-2015   #2
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 76
Thanks: 4
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Chichi, the Angry Panda

Looks good. Was your various Panda accessory garnish from the dealer, or ebay?
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

AndyK is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 22-01-2015   #3
Small Fiat Fanatic
 
Squadrone Rosso's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Nr.Neath & Swansea, Wales
Posts: 1,252
Thanks: 81
Trader Rating: 0
Squadrone Rosso has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: Chichi, the Angry Panda

Quote Originally Posted by AndyK View Post
Looks good. Was your various Panda accessory garnish from the dealer, or ebay?
Dealer Internal cost rates
__________________
Simon
Green Fiat Panda Cross TA ~ Red Seicento Abarth ~ Red Alfa Romeo Spider Series 4 ~ Silver/Black Toyota C-HR Hybrid
Squadrone Rosso is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 22-01-2015   #4
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: North Herts
Posts: 1,652
Thanks: 221
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Chichi, the Angry Panda

Looks great - actually, looks really good in the green

Can you post a photo showing the whole sill protector? My 4x4 is white and I'm worried that scuff marks from getting in and out will start to show. Seen the protectors listed by local Fiat dealer via eBay but photos they post don't show them on the car

Where do they put the seat heater switches on the Cross? The place they go on the other Panda's is occupied by the 'terrain control'

Thanks!
Pete
__________________
2013 Panda 4x4 :: North Herts :: Remember, if you find a post helpful, press the smiley face 'thanks' button below
Herts Hillhopper is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 23-01-2015   #5
Small Fiat Fanatic
 
Squadrone Rosso's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Nr.Neath & Swansea, Wales
Posts: 1,252
Thanks: 81
Trader Rating: 0
Squadrone Rosso has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: Chichi, the Angry Panda

Thanks

The chap who bought Buzz in members motors put a pic of the sill guards fitted.

https://www.fiatforum.com/members-mo...nda-cross.html

The heated seat switches are on the silver centre console bit. Easy to see & use.
Likes Herts Hillhopper liked this post
__________________
Simon
Green Fiat Panda Cross TA ~ Red Seicento Abarth ~ Red Alfa Romeo Spider Series 4 ~ Silver/Black Toyota C-HR Hybrid

Last edited by Squadrone Rosso; 23-01-2015 at 00:24.
Squadrone Rosso is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 23-01-2015   #6
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: North Herts
Posts: 1,652
Thanks: 221
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Chichi, the Angry Panda

Great - thanks for the link to earlier post for the pics - I'd missed that one. Think I will go for them, and the rear bumper edge protector too - both listed here:
http://glynhopkinpartsonline.co.uk/s...ml?q=panda+4x4
__________________
2013 Panda 4x4 :: North Herts :: Remember, if you find a post helpful, press the smiley face 'thanks' button below
Herts Hillhopper is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 23-01-2015   #7
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: North East England
Posts: 29
Thanks: 5
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Chichi, the Angry Panda

That looks really good Squadrone Rosso - Jealous much! Anyway enjoy.
It's the some colour as mine that's on order, the more I see it the more I like it.
I had a Twinair 500 (briefly - long story). As a now ex-500 driver yourself
I'm curious as to whether that extra 5bhp makes any difference or is it soaked
up by losses in the 4x4 system?
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

ntab500 is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 23-01-2015   #8
Small Fiat Fanatic
 
Squadrone Rosso's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Nr.Neath & Swansea, Wales
Posts: 1,252
Thanks: 81
Trader Rating: 0
Squadrone Rosso has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: Chichi, the Angry Panda

Too early to tell as only done 19 miles....lol

The overall refinement is a lot better than the 500, especially road noise.

Not at all what I was expecting.

1st is short but 2nd a bit to tall to pull off with. 6th is a bonus.

Ice this morning. Heated screen + bum warmers = bliss
__________________
Simon
Green Fiat Panda Cross TA ~ Red Seicento Abarth ~ Red Alfa Romeo Spider Series 4 ~ Silver/Black Toyota C-HR Hybrid
Squadrone Rosso is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 23-01-2015   #9
Full Circle
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Dublin
Posts: 1,442
Thanks: 75
Trader Rating: 0
Mercky has donated!
Ireland 
Re: Chichi, the Angry Panda

Yeh it'll need a few K up before you'll get a good comparative feel for the engine, it's a heavier car then the 500 so I'm guessing there won't by a major impact from the extra 5bhp. What you probably will notice will be the effect of the 6 gears which probably allows for tighter ratios making the car feel a bit quicker as your on boost earlier, I recall a few TA panda owners commenting that the TA felt quicker on the panda then the 500 which I'm guessing is the gearing and probably a different map to suit.
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

Mercky is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 23-01-2015   #10
Small Fiat Fanatic
 
Squadrone Rosso's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Nr.Neath & Swansea, Wales
Posts: 1,252
Thanks: 81
Trader Rating: 0
Squadrone Rosso has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: Chichi, the Angry Panda

Quote Originally Posted by Herts Hillhopper View Post
Great - thanks for the link to earlier post for the pics - I'd missed that one. Think I will go for them, and the rear bumper edge protector too - both listed here:
http://glynhopkinpartsonline.co.uk/s...ml?q=panda+4x4
I quite fancy one of these in the silver look but not sure if the 4x4 / Cross bumpers are the same

http://www.rearguards.co.uk/index.ph...5b6h9l098r684e
__________________
Simon
Green Fiat Panda Cross TA ~ Red Seicento Abarth ~ Red Alfa Romeo Spider Series 4 ~ Silver/Black Toyota C-HR Hybrid
Squadrone Rosso is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 24-01-2015   #11
Small Fiat Fanatic
 
Squadrone Rosso's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Nr.Neath & Swansea, Wales
Posts: 1,252
Thanks: 81
Trader Rating: 0
Squadrone Rosso has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: Chichi, the Angry Panda

My good lady had her first look at Chichi this morning.

Not sure / keen as I expected. Functional according to her.

Pointed out that there was more leg room in the back of the 500 with the driver's seat set for me which was both true & surprising

Liked the access though, the bigger boot, general oddment space, driving position, quality & the fact it's quirky

I cleaned all the glass then put rain repellent on the side windows, rear screen & lights.

Out in it tonight. May take it to a Piston Heads meet tomorrow:lol:
__________________
Simon
Green Fiat Panda Cross TA ~ Red Seicento Abarth ~ Red Alfa Romeo Spider Series 4 ~ Silver/Black Toyota C-HR Hybrid
Squadrone Rosso is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 24-01-2015   #12
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 180
Thanks: 12
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Chichi, the Angry Panda

what rain repellent did you use?
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

mantababe is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 24-01-2015   #13
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: North Herts
Posts: 1,652
Thanks: 221
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Chichi, the Angry Panda

A question about gears: the diesel 4x4 only has five gears, but at 70mph (speedo indicated - sat nav says speedo reads a little slow) the rev counter shows about 2700rpm. I think the TwinAir is revving higher than that at 70mph? The 4x4 TA (and Cross) have a lower first gear, to provide a 'crawler' fro going up the steep stuff off road. The diesel doesn't need that because of the greater torque at low revs. My only problem with gears (on MJ) is driving at 35pmh -- 30 will do in forth and 40 in fifth -- but in heavy traffic moving at 35 you have to keep swapping between them.
__________________
2013 Panda 4x4 :: North Herts :: Remember, if you find a post helpful, press the smiley face 'thanks' button below
Herts Hillhopper is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 25-01-2015   #14
Small Fiat Fanatic
 
Squadrone Rosso's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Nr.Neath & Swansea, Wales
Posts: 1,252
Thanks: 81
Trader Rating: 0
Squadrone Rosso has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: Chichi, the Angry Panda

I'll check out the actual v indicated road speeds v revs this week

First on the TA is very short but pulling off in second seems unnatural & too high.

Now done just over 70 miles on mixed roads & have had a really good look at here.

She drives nicely, the controls are really nicely weighted, very refined & quiet compared the the 500.

Only blemish on the build quality is the passenger side plastic wheel arch trim doesn't seem quite flush. The driver's is spot on. May need that looked at to prevent stones & the likes from getting trapped

Need to fine tune the driving position too as not quite there yet.

Heated seat are fantastic though. Super quick to heat up

Cheers,
Likes petercresswell liked this post
__________________
Simon
Green Fiat Panda Cross TA ~ Red Seicento Abarth ~ Red Alfa Romeo Spider Series 4 ~ Silver/Black Toyota C-HR Hybrid
Squadrone Rosso is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 27-01-2015   #15
Small Fiat Fanatic
 
Squadrone Rosso's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Nr.Neath & Swansea, Wales
Posts: 1,252
Thanks: 81
Trader Rating: 0
Squadrone Rosso has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: Chichi, the Angry Panda

Mine hit a recorded 109 miles today. Average mpg thus far is 35.3 with hardly and Eco button action.

I bought a litre of Castrol Edge 0w/30 oil from Halfords just in case top up is required.

My previous TA 500 took 250ml during running in but didn't use a single drop after that.

Still not 100% there with the seat position but other than that, what a fantastic car

Ref the rain repellent on the side glass & rear screen, Autoglym Lifeshine.

Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByFIAT Forum1422378075.225065.jpg
Views:	166
Size:	792.5 KB
ID:	148951

Cheers,
Likes mantababe, TwinAir Newbie, Bogwoppit liked this post
__________________
Simon
Green Fiat Panda Cross TA ~ Red Seicento Abarth ~ Red Alfa Romeo Spider Series 4 ~ Silver/Black Toyota C-HR Hybrid

Last edited by Squadrone Rosso; 27-01-2015 at 18:03.
Squadrone Rosso is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Reply
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump
Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
(G) So angry!! Miiss SunShiine 500 46 15-11-2009 12:15
(G) Seriously angry.... What to do?? Stripysox 500 42 10-11-2009 22:16
(G) Happy 60th Chichi!! pandamonius_maximus Panda (Classic) 8 23-02-2009 16:16
Panda Panda 4x4 a.k.a. Chichi pandamonius_maximus Members Motors 22 07-08-2007 13:08
Angry Again! Trancendental Leisure Lounge 15 12-07-2006 07:30