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Re: Rescued Schumacher Edition Sei

Well nice one)
My second "yellow banana" after an year/half be parked on drive on SORN nearly has gone to breakers yard :/
Because friend of my menager knew that I got one SPI has mention to me do I wanna 4 couple hundred's?
There was many,many hours and labour done by me due to miss fire of two cylinders............+another faults that cost me a prize of profit from my SPI.
In my opinion was NOT worth a breath du to long time my MPI spend on drive and definitely will never again do same mistake.
At this stage I'll love to drive it and do not see a point to get rid of it )
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Well nice one)
My second "yellow banana" after an year/half be parked on drive on SORN nearly has gone to breakers yard :/
Because friend of my menager knew that I got one SPI has mention to me do I wanna 4 couple hundred's?
There was many,many hours and labour done by me due to miss fire of two cylinders............+another faults that cost me a prize of profit from my SPI.
In my opinion was NOT worth a breath du to long time my MPI spend on drive and definitely will never again do same mistake.
At this stage I'll love to drive it and do not see a point to get rid of it )
This is couple of pictures fela..Attachment 143378bro X wih YAttachment 143379 and now saved from dismiss.
That's a sad story, but try to take some solace in the fact this it is healthy again and being enjoyed!
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Re: Rescued Schumacher Edition Sei

This is why when I was 17, after passing my driving test always wanted to have one.
Even now I'm 15 years older and to be honest some time when I drive it got feel of meet my dreams but in reality, bit shame that wasn't 15 y's ago
Any way even value of it isn't worth my investment (probably U're aware too) that still I apperiaciate U also taking a challenge of saving U're Schumie and hope when U do all U do to it,more satisfied and happy U be
Wish U best of luck and hopefully one day on Fan Centomeeting we see and talk about our trolley's
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Got a "Vehicle Identity Check" letter in about the Sei saying that I had to take it to a test centre to confirm vehicle identity, as it is recorded as being "accident damaged" by an insurer. I'll ask my niece if she knows anything about it.
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Got a "Vehicle Identity Check" letter in about the Sei saying that I had to take it to a test centre to confirm vehicle identity, as it is recorded as being "accident damaged" by an insurer. I'll ask my niece if she knows anything about it.
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A VIC check is just that.. to make sure it's the vehicle the log book says it is..,

Shouldn't be a problem.. worth checking the vin plate + engine number yourself now though..against v5 / logbook,
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hi,
A VIC check is just that.. to make sure it's the vehicle the log book says it is..,

Shouldn't be a problem.. worth checking the vin plate + engine number yourself now though..against v5 / logbook,
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I hope it's that straightforward. On the letter, it says

"...take the form and fee to the VIC centre where you wish the test to be carried out, either
  • Lisburn
  • Londonderry"

Now both of these places are in Northern Island and the car is in Central Scotland and I am in North East Scotland. Is it safe to assume that they've just given weird choices, and in fact, I could take it to anyVIC centre (Edinburgh, Glasgow, Perth, etc)?
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To find out about the VIC check here....
https://www.taxdisc.direct.gov.uk/Ev...execution=e2s2
To find a VIC site....
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-identity-check-site
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Awesome - thanks for finding that great information. Upon re-reading, the letter says IF one lives in Northern Ireland then the centres are at Lisburn and Londonderry. Silly me skip-reading.

Yes, the nearest one to where the car is now is Perth.

Got more information from my Niece - the insurers got on board with the car when someone reversed into the driver door in a car park. At that point they mentioned to her that the car had previously a write off (presumably a previous owner). This news does not fill me with joy, but if it has been repaired properly then I guess it's ok as I intend to keep it until it is unserviceable. But still

In any case, I am wondering if an RAC check would reveal any more information on the matter.
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look at the V5, could well say that the vehicle was substantially repaired..,

page 2, under the engine, fuel, body type etc..,

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Re: Rescued Schumacher Edition Sei

Quote: "DVLA will not issue a new registration document or vehicle excise duty license until the car passes a VIC"
If your niece has used it it for several years then it must have had a VIC check already, so you shouldn't need one

As varescrazy pointed out any car suffering cat C, cat B, or cat A damage then the information will be displayed on the V5c.

RAC check? WHY?? They only use the info DVLA supply & you can get that yourself for free. If you're desperate to throw money away then lob it in my direction
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Quote Originally Posted by Ouby View Post
Quote: "DVLA will not issue a new registration document or vehicle excise duty license until the car passes a VIC"
If your niece has used it it for several years then it must have had a VIC check already, so you shouldn't need one
Yes - this is my exact thought process. I will call the DVLA tomorrow to discuss this.


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Quote: As varescrazy pointed out any car suffering cat C, cat B, or cat A damage then the information will be displayed on the V5c.
There didn't appear to be any additional notes along these lines that I noticed, but I may be wrong.


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RAC check? WHY?? They only use the info DVLA supply & you can get that yourself for free. If you're desperate to throw money away then lob it in my direction
I thought it might reveal a bit more detail on the nature and history of the event, but now I've read a bit more about it, it seems as though only the insurer who wrote it off knows. If I ever happen to have even an inkling of spare cash, my missus senses it and it is gone within nanoseconds
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Quote Originally Posted by Ouby View Post
Quote: "DVLA will not issue a new registration document or vehicle excise duty license until the car passes a VIC"
If your niece has used it it for several years then it must have had a VIC check already, so you shouldn't need one

As varescrazy pointed out any car suffering cat C, cat B, or cat A damage then the information will be displayed on the V5c.

RAC check? WHY?? They only use the info DVLA supply & you can get that yourself for free. If you're desperate to throw money away then lob it in my direction
Anything above CAT C, the car can not be put back onto the road so i dont think it will say on the V5.

VIC is just a identity check nothing more to it. I guess you still got current MOT?
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Anything above CAT C, the car can not be put back onto the road so i dont think it will say on the V5.

VIC is just a identity check nothing more to it. I guess you still got current MOT?
Yeah, i didn't word that very well.... all cars of Cat A, B, or C will have a VIC marker, but only Cat C can repaired & used on the road again. The fact that the vehicle has been 'repaired' should be noted on the V5c section 3 Special Notes. In DVLA's rush to replace the blue V5 with the red V5c the information was not always carried across, & there has always been a woeful lack of info swopping between insurance companies & DVLA.
According to every source i can find a VIC check will show if the vehicle has a VIC marker.
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Yeah, i didn't word that very well.... all cars of Cat A, B, or C will have a VIC marker, but only Cat C can repaired & used on the road again. The fact that the vehicle has been 'repaired' should be noted on the V5c section 3 Special Notes. In DVLA's rush to replace the blue V5 with the red V5c the information was not always carried across, & there has always been a woeful lack of info swopping between insurance companies & DVLA.
According to every source i can find a VIC check will show if the vehicle has a VIC marker.
Correct..!!

I read this month of moves to scrap the VIC checks..they have something like a 0.01 success rate..

brought in to stop "ringers" - but stolen vehicles just get exported

speak to the DVLA.. could well have been sent out in error.. plenty of that around unfortunately..!!,
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Update:

I travelled to see the car a couple of weekends ago with the intention of rectifying as many problems with it that I could in the 2 days I was there.

Unfortunately, the mini driver CD for my OBD cable was not readable so I couldn't read the ECU, which I was plenty peeved about.

I then took a trip to the scrapyard to get the bits that were missing/broken: a battery clamp and parcel shelf, 2 new headlight units (both self-levelling tilt mechanisms were broken on the original pair and were stupidly cable-tied into a fixed, but entirely wrong, position), steering column upper and lower shrouds to replace the abominable hack to operate the fan (more below). I also got the multiplug and some wiring for the otterstat. The aircleaner had damaged securing lugs (and was, yep, cable-tied down) so I got a new one of those too.








The reason the fan is not working is there is a wiring fault or inoperative otterstat. In order to overcome this, rather than effect a proper repair, some idiot ran seriously heavy wiring straight from the positive of the battery, over the A-pillar, under the door seal to a pull-switch on the column shroud lower, then back out of the cabin to the otterstat on the radiator and to the fan. This assumes the switch is working though as it is wired in series. The wire was unfused - how this car didn't burst into flames is a miracle.





There has also been a very amateurish attempt at fitting an immobiliser, as evidenced by the keyway which is installed (but not wired) in the fusebox cover (which I've now replaced) and the butchering and terrible re-joining of the ignition wires.

https://www.fiatforum.com/gallery/up...2_10_58_45.jpg

Alloy wheel refurb was poorly done and alloys are kerbed a lot.



The entire car is covered in tree-sap and needs a serious detailing.



The sideskirt has come away from the body:



Does anyone know what this gasket is called? My local Fiat garage only saw an adhesive in their system.

The driver door has some funky damage, which looks consistent with a break-in attempt.

https://www.fiatforum.com/gallery/up...2_10_59_49.jpg

Remaining work then:
  • ECU reading/fault resetting then indicated issues addressed.
  • Ignition wiring.
  • Secure instruments/investigate reason for loose fixings.
  • Bulkhead partition/sound deadening needs replaced (it can be seen in the battery clamp pics where it has been inexplicably and crudely chopped down).
  • Cosmetic improvements, side skirt securing, detailing.
  • Replace front bumper (and possibly driver's door).
  • VIC procedure booking.


On the plus side, it is at least a genuine Schumacher Edition.



I'll try to visit the car this coming weekend to at least read the ECU and replace the parts indicated.
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