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Old 09-05-2014   #31
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Re: Fiat Bravo HGT 155

ah yes, i remember you saying now.. I was thinking about getting a bravo 155 as a daily the other day, one has come up really cheap on ebay but its a bit of a mission away to get a car without tax and mot. Is the only one i can find anywhere though - rare as you like it seems bearing in mind how many bravo's you saw back in the day. I guess they are getting old now, older than they look!!
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Re: Fiat Bravo HGT 155

Yup, mines one of the youngest and its getting on for 14 years! Do still see the odd bravo and brava about but its been years since I've seen another hgt on the road...
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Re: Fiat Bravo HGT 155

No update on the car really..

The new fuel line is spot on. No leaking or petrol smell after a run Looking to replace the rear disks and pads soon as they've started squeaking on runs and doing my head in The rear disks look like they've seen better days anyway

Quick photo of the HGT today after a blast at the jetwash..

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Day off today and luckily the rain has held off so I decided to fit the new rear discs and pads I ordered the other day. Full set of Mintex parts.

The old discs and pads were starting to annoy me with squeaking so it was time. I never quite realised just how worn they were though until I removed the wheel...

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I also noticed something else.. Nothing much of a concern but frustrating none the less... Spot the odd one out...

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Yup, a steelie bolt holding my alloys on. I've not checked the fronts but it needs to be replaced. I imagine there will be a good few rolling around in the garage at my mums house considering the number of Fiats I've taken apart or broken there

After much swearing and hammering, the old discs came off.

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They took a proper battering to get off. Like they were welded on!

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Side by side, old discs and pads with the new. The old are badly scored and pitted and whilst the pads have a lot of friction material left, they are unevenly worn and pretty much scrap. Looks like the pads were replaced without new discs at some point in the past.

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Henry came to join me whilst fitting the new bits

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32 for a fancy tool from Halfords I'll probably never use again... I did try first without the tool but couldn't turn and apply pressure at the same time so gave up and bought the part Ah well.. Something to add to the collection of useless and expensive specialist tools in my shed

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All done and looking great! As is the car ...

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Re: Fiat Bravo HGT 155

good work, when you finally finished replacing the rest of the car for new bits you can sell it to me if you like

And for the record, new pads and leaving discs is acceptable so long as the disks are ok and you bed the pads in gently. The other way, changing discs and not pads, thats what is not acceptable maintenance. But it is of course best practice to just change both when you consider how cheap discs for a normal car are.
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No new updates on the car, just another pic from today

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Well.. an update! The first mod to the car. Nothing too extravagant but a nice personalized touch...

My missus has an embroidery machine which she uses for her business. I'm a bit handy with it so thought I would have a play

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Quick something based on the 90s Fiat logo but in red with HGT across it. Intended originally as a red fill for each square and black outlines but after a test run on some scrap, I wasn't feeling the block red so ditched it for a red outline instead...

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Fresh off the machine. Appologies for the crap quality pics. Phone not up to much in the dark

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And all back together. One HGT embroidered rear head rest! .. Second rear is on the machine currently and will look at the fronts another day. Can't even work out how to get them out of the car at the moment


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Re: Fiat Bravo HGT 155

Sooooo... Bit of an update. Been a while

Mostly just been driving the Bravo since Stanford Hall. Not missed a beat as usual but the dreaded MOT was due at the end of August and sadly, it failed Leaky front shock absorber, warn front ball joint boots, worn rear bearing, corroded front brake pipes and it needs a bit of welding somewhere at the back.

Suspension stuff no probs. Bearing, no probs but brake lines and welding, well, I can't weld and i'm not a fan of brakes so would prefer not to touch them.

The garage gave me some outlandish figure for the work so I decided I would buy the parts I could and fit myself. I will, however, have to put it in the garage for the brake lines and welding, which is going to set me back around 2-250 depending just how bad the area that needs welding is once they start cutting metal out. After pricing up the parts I can buy and adding on the garage costs, i'm looking at around 450ish to get the Bravo through the MOT...

I did initially think I would break the car or would sell as a whole and reluctantly listed it but backed out pretty quickly as I don't really want to part with the car...

Orders all the bits ...
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And then I decided it was all still a waste of money so listed it for sale again.. and very quickly backed out...

I'm still unsure what to do but with a free afternoon today, I decided I may as well start fitting the bits I bought for it.. Starting with the front shock absorber...

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The cat had to supervise behind a protective screen

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Always handing working on 90s Fiats...

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New shock with the old complete shock, ready to swap all the bits over...

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Swapped!

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And in!

Next time I get a chance, I'll get the wishbones changed, and probably put it back up for sale again in the mean time...

I did get a great deal on a monthly bus pass though.. I feel honored to be a monthly subscriber to the loser cruiser once again. Bloody fiats.
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Re: Fiat Bravo HGT 155

There is connectors in front of the rear subframe for the brakelines.

I changed them myself on 155 Weekend with readymade pipes + one gender swap (legal as there is connector, making your own connector where has not been one is illegal).

Old ones had to be cut to get hex socket on the corroded connector, vicegrips holding on the other part as brakelinetools were loose on the corroded connectors...
Also heated the connectors with mini torch and discovered brakefluid burns with green flame.


Also welded under the seats but I got MIG here so its not an issue for me.

But gotta say that looks pretty rusty, even more than mine, which is suprising as they salt the roads here.
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Re: Fiat Bravo HGT 155

On my car the garage that did my front brake pipes cut the cars original pipes back and flared them to put a new connection further down, my car has passed 3 MOT's since, they checked with another MOT station to see if it was an acceptable repair.

Ive had a lot of metal replaced under the rear sills, one of the rear arches and a panel that's like a mud guard on the rear arch. It wasn't that expensive but I took the interior out to save the bodyshop time, save me money and avoid interior parts getting broken since id taken the interior out several times before.

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I've yet to even have a look at the area that's failed. Good idea on removing interior parts etc. I'll see what's local to the repair and remove stuff if I think they might need to. The fail sheet suggests it's one of the rear suspension mounting points. Need to investigate further.

Made a start on the front wishbones tonight.. Started with the drivers side and getting the old one out was easy peasy...

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Spent the next hour or so faffing trying to get the new one in. Just struggled to get everything to line up and was starting to get dark so I gave up.

A bit of research though and seems i'm not doing anything wrong and it is indeed a massive faff. A far cry from the cinquecento and punto wishbones i've done in the past that took less than an hour per side

Some have suggested removing the strut which makes it a lot easier to maneuver stuff around, so that's where I'll start next time. Probs friday if the weather is ok
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Re: Fiat Bravo HGT 155

From the experience of my 2001 Brava I'd say that as regards rust underneath you need to bank on spending a very messy day under the car with a wire brush attachment in a small angle grinder, and remove all the old underseal, seam sealant and rust from all the edges of the car underside and sills. The factory stuff fails after 8-9 years and rust festers underneath. Take off the plastic undertray beneath the back seats and get into all the nooks and crannies to clean and scrape. Back end of the seals inside the rear wheelarches are vulnerable also. Also the front corners underneath at the end of the sills, these pick up a lot of wet and crud from the front wheels (without mudflaps...).

Give it proper rust treatment and primer, weld as needed, then on with new underseal. Could be worth removing the bumbers also to clean and derust, the mounting towers at the front corners of the car are very vulnerable to rust also.

Hope it all goes well, it's all standard stuff requiring time and effort and a bit of cash.
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So a bit more of an update.

With the night drawing in a bit earlier these days, I've not been able to work on the car after work but did manage to get the front wishbones sorted in the end. Took a lot of fiddling but much easier if you take the whole shock out. Just more room to move everything about to get it lined up and no resistance from the shock and spring.

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The pass side wishbone in, just waiting for the ARB droplink to be refit... Another mission...

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Brand new battery installed. The old one wasn't holding charge for more than 24 hours so needed to go...

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And the bravo back on it's wheels again. Front end done. Just need to do the rear wheel bearing which was my job for today but it's pissed it down all day so never got round to it

Popped into the garage today to get it booked in for the brake lines and the welding as well as the MOT retest and the tracking too (quick drive after the front end work showed it's been knocked right out...)

I had a quick look under the back end of the car for the suspect area but didn't find much. There are a few bits of minor surface rust about but nothing excessive. Admittedly I didn't have a proper look and the garage have no doubt spotted something i didnt. Oh well...
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i dunno mate, i have known cars fail on rust and then been retested elsewhere and it not even mentioned as an advisory - find alot of places make out its miles worse than it really is. Next time though, ask him to show you the rot thats the issue (well hopefully there won't be a next time but you know what i mean)
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