Panda (Classic) Snatch Panda

andyholli · Jul 13, 2016

Does anyone else have this -

-One tiny and simple car needs a whole heap of keys to access and make it work?

And while we're on "Unlikely Top Trumps Categories That a Panda May Do Quite Well in Though Probably Wouldn't Win" - I discovered yesterday that Snatch can accelerate through 90 mph without changing gear.. Dear Norris, is this a record?

For Pandas.

firstcar-Y10 · Jul 14, 2016

You can do 90 in 1st?!

.. or do you pull away in 4th or something?

kolza · Jul 14, 2016

andyholli said:
Does anyone else have this -

https://www.fiatforum.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=130941

-One tiny and simple car needs a whole heap of keys to access and make it work?
...
Snatch can accelerate through 90 mph without changing gear..

I'm down to 1x oval key + fuel cap key on both cars, still can downgrade to just one key.

One day me think ' I don't need 16v' next day I see Mr.H pushing the limits and setting the bar at 90mph in one gear.

MADNESS

andyholli · Jul 14, 2016

firstcar-Y10 said:
You can do 90 in 1st?!
.. or do you pull away in 4th or something?

I must try that - I think max in 1st is probably closer to 9 but it does accelerate cleanly in 5th from 12mph.

"MADNESS" as kolza says. - 16v torque means not needing to change gear very much, meaning longer life for the syncros. Who knew a daft engine would be kinder than the standard one, to your gearbox.

Dragon Man · Jul 15, 2016

not sure if i am lucky or bad fiat security... but i managed to find a fuel filler cap with the same lock as the doors/ignition barrel on fallout... so my car keys are just the central locking keyfob and one key.

not showing off or anything. sadly no phone so i cant get a picture of it :/

Freebo · Jul 15, 2016

The ST has 3 keys which fit all locks so only have one on our main key ring. With the Sisley i believe Cameron bought a lock kit from Italy so have two blue keys and a red key similar to the late 90's fiat keys. All keys fit all locks.

I've actually yet to own a panda where more than one key is needed!

panda panda · Jul 15, 2016

I've had FIVE keys needed on at least 2 cars, ignition, passenger and drivers door, boot and fuel cap.
I think it was LVJ and maybe the don's 4x4, though I remember changing some locks as it gets very annoying constantly trying to find the right key.
Oh do immobiliser keys count?

northernchap · Jul 15, 2016

Four here - ignition, both doors, boot and fuel cap. Plus additional metal for showing off with. I did intend to paint that green as well but I like it as it is.

I have a weird compulsion/superstition where my keyring has to match the car specifically. Don't judge me! That's probably why the BX is broken, I haven't got round to that yet.

lprescott · Jul 15, 2016

But where is the bottle opener?

andyholli · Jul 15, 2016

northernchap said:
I have a weird compulsion/superstition where my keyring has to match the car specifically. Don't judge me! That's probably why the BX is broken, I haven't got round to that yet.

No judgement here, I've dabbled with the same weird compulsion:

No time left to fix the BX after all those key rings have been found and matched to their keys. Have you asked dragonman for help?

- Actually, when did this forum start going all chevroney?

AndyPanda4x4 · Jul 15, 2016

I've just kept the all-in-one option, although it does look like and extra large lump in my trousers (not the usual case) it's less sh*t to stab you in the leg when bending over.

northernchap · Jul 15, 2016

andyholli said:
- Actually, when did this forum start going all chevroney?

He's a Johnny-come-lately, I was the original turncoat - although at this rate his will be on the road before mine! Determined fellow that lad. :worship:

The Mustang one is off one of my old Capri's so it's not quite right, that's probably why that doesn't work either...

andyholli · Jul 15, 2016

AndyPanda4x4 said:
I've just kept the all-in-one option, although it does look like and extra large lump in my trousers (not the usual case) it's less sh*t to stab you in the leg when bending over.

A bar of monographed soap, some house keys and a section of fuel pipe - my life is so boring in comparison.:worship:

andyholli · Jul 24, 2016

If plugs could talk

This ones a year old. -Looks as though it's been eventful.

Swapped to try to eliminate a misfire but despite appearances these plugs were all still working fine.

Rust on the flats due to deep submersion in river water some time ago..

AndyPanda4x4 · Jul 24, 2016

Well you best keep the plugs Andy as they may be set for another dunking come November/December time!

aquamarine · Jul 25, 2016

andyholli said:
This ones a year old. -Looks as though it's been eventful.

Swapped to try to eliminate a misfire but despite appearances these plugs were all still working fine.

Rust on the flats due to deep submersion in river water some time ago..

How is the misfire? Still having HG concerns?..
I like the photo background by the way. Clearly there are subliminal messages here.

andyholli · Jul 25, 2016

The subliminal message is there just in case the direct instruction fails - but it never has.
Decided to embark upon gasket change anyway because:
1. We know the valve stem seals are fairly knackered.
2. Thought it would be quicker than going into more and more sniff and compression tests (wrong).
3. Fun.
4. It's getting on a bit.

Got so far on removing the head then staled due to needing long reach Ribe bits. Ebay doing its thing as we speak.

Refurbing the head is a given. Question remaining is - will the bores be good enough to go again, or is this a good time to drop a 1.4 bottom end underneath..?

andyholli · Aug 2, 2016

So there's good news and bad news -

Good news is that the bores look great, no scoring, no significant steps just a bit coked up.
Bad news is that the bores look great, no scoring, etc, - so no excuse for the 1.4 bottom end yet..

Good news on the head that I can't see any signs of leakage but it's off to the headmaster for a refresh and check over anyway.
Bad news is that I can't see any signs of leakage so haven't found the source of the misfire so maybe a set of injectors are next up.

Fix it again tomorrow.

AndyPanda4x4 · Aug 2, 2016

Was the misfire constant or more so when the engine had warmed up? How did the plugs look when they came out?

andyholli · Aug 2, 2016

Miss fire only happened off idle, when rapid rev increase (usually) called for. Could be electrical - coil pack maybe. - I'm following standard dealer practice in replacing everything until its fixed.

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