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Old 16-10-2013   #16
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Re: Mk1 Panda 4x4 long term project

[QUOTE][controversial] I'd like to upgrade the engine (1108 cc fire probably), and look into higher gearing. I know it loses originality but I think it will make it more useable and enjoyable. /QUOTE]

Controversial indeed Have to admit I'm having similar thoughts for my Mk1 too so I'm pleased there will be someone else to take half the flack.
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Strength in numbers! We have the "keep the bits to put back to original" defence too. Am going to have a word with my local gearbox place about the gearing, and will keep half an eye out for an engine (non fuel-injected to make it easier).
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I am unbelievably shocked

Yes I think I am safe...I've never modified a mk1 4x4 either... Ahem...

By the way, if you are changing the engine... I would love to buy the original 965cc one off you. QingQing had a hard life before I got her and I would sleep a lot easier knowing I had a spare seeing as she's my daily driver
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@pandamonius_maximus, Hi Si, I wouldn't rule out selling, though may feel the need to retain the possibility of putting back to original to allay the guilt.

Am afraid my own engine conversion will be a long way off though as it needs to come as stage 3 (and stage 1's moving at about an hour a week!).
@VmanC, have you any definite plans re gearbox? Unfortunately my local gearbox place are unlikely to be able to help. Seem to recall a modified (longer 5th gear) 4x4 box being on here recently.

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@pandamonius_maximus, Hi Si, I wouldn't rule out selling, though may feel the need to retain the possibility of putting back to original to allay the guilt.

Am afraid my own engine conversion will be a long way off though as it needs to come as stage 3 (and stage 1's moving at about an hour a week!).
@VmanC, have you any definite plans re gearbox? Unfortunately my local gearbox place are unlikely to be able to help. Seem to recall a modified (longer 5th gear) 4x4 box being on here recently.

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I think Lewey fitted a 5th gear from an Uno gearbox a while back. I'll probably use a 4spd from a 1000cl as I quite like the 4spd and wouldn't want to go cable change. Mine isn't a 4x4 though so my needs are a little different.
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@pandamonius_maximus, Hi Si, I wouldn't rule out selling, though may feel the need to retain the possibility of putting back to original to allay the guilt.

Am afraid my own engine conversion will be a long way off though as it needs to come as stage 3 (and stage 1's moving at about an hour a week!).
@VmanC, have you any definite plans re gearbox? Unfortunately my local gearbox place are unlikely to be able to help. Seem to recall a modified (longer 5th gear) 4x4 box being on here recently.

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Cool beans, yeah not in a hurry to get a spare engine...it's just as a precaution really. But understand about keeping the original bits (I've done the same with anything I've changed as well to be honest).

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Minor progress so far! Am cleaning the interior (see "washing seats" thread) before removing to weld. So far I'm 3 Dysonfulls and 2 Vaxfulls in, and the dirt keeps coming...

Really pleased to see rear seams are good, now I've removed interior trim. Needs one small section on inner rear wing, and one section on roof just above driver's door (looks like the rubber door seal has trapped moisture and rusted through). Will add photos/video tomorrow.

Am liking the larger Mk1 door bins, and the moss green carpet. Or is it just mouldy?
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Had a couple of free hours this evening. Raised right hand side of car, found lots and lots of rust. :-( Also removed front bumper and o/s/f arch liner, which seems brittle with age. Front valance is also bad, has separated from crossmember. On both sections you can see where it's been welded before. May swap to a mechanical job next time to hopefully get quick win and lift spirits. Charging light is on so will remove alternator.

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Wow it seems like you have your work cut out David, looking forward to seeing some progress pics
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Wow it seems like you have your work cut out David, looking forward to seeing some progress pics
Well it's been a while, but there is progress to report, mostly generated by cheating (paying someone!). Will add some pics in the morning.
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By any ways or means! in fairness, I think if I had my time again with the welding I would just pay some one else.
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Well it's been a while, but there is progress to report, mostly generated by cheating (paying someone!). Will add some pics in the morning.
By any way and means is a good motto! Great to get some progress - am concentrating my own time on finding the (multitude!) of bits which need replacing.

Am still pondering the life-giving qualities of Shropshire mud. Some places on the car are truly awful, but it does seem that the facepack-protected ones (e.g. rear seams) have done OK.

Thanks by the way to @goodgirl156 and @AndyPanda4x4 for the wings!
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This is great! wonderful to see progress! Also searching for parts here, its a pain in the backside but ill be happy to share all the info I gain and prices when I find something you need.
Glad that the sill and wing have gone to good use!

Shropshire mud..... Both panda's I have would not agree about its rust preventing qualities.
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looking goooooood! Can I come up and see it now then?
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Hi Si, you'd be very welcome - it should hopefully be back this Sunday all being well.
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