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Old 13-09-2012   #1
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My MK1 Punto Sporting 1.2 16v

About time I did this thread. Been a long time coming but I have some spare time at work today and thought I may as well introduce you all to my Punto.

Around May this year I was looking at replacing my Honda CRV with something better on fuel as whilst the CRV was the perfect family motor, 20mpg wasn't doing the wallet much good and I had actually taken to getting the bus to work. A small fiat seemed ideal so I started searching around for a Punto.

A nice yellow MK1 popped up on ebay. Looked tidy, in price range and seemed genuine. Got onto the trader and popped down to see it. On viewing it was filthy and had obviously not moved in months (later confirmed by the trader he had had it 6 months...) but it started and ran well and looked in good condition under the layers of grime. The interior was immaculate and unabused. We agreed a price and I put a deposit down.

A few days later I came back to collect the car. Still filthy and hadn't moved from its spot. Great, I've giving you the best part of a grand and you can't throw a bucket of water over it for me .. ahh well.

On the road on the way home was great. Instantly noticed a few potential problems but it handled great and sounded so good. The 16v has a lovely raspy quality to it and the engine just loves to be revved! I stopped by the jetwash on the way home and gave it it's first clean in a looonnngg while...

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After that is when the problems started

One of he problems I noticed on the way home from collecting was a rather erratic temp gauge and the cooling fan not coming on when required. Quick call to Euro Car Parts and I had a new thermostat and a fan switch on order.

I promptly replaced both and all apeared well. Set off for work the next morning to notice a trail of coolant following be in my rear view mirror ... The waterpump had failed! Off I went to get the bus

Onto Euro Car Parts once again to order a new waterpump, cambelt and tentioner. Few days later I found the time to get it all replaced...

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The car ran great again although was hard to start from cold some mornings and would hesistate a little until warm. Not to be too disheartend, I continued to drive the car but the problem gradually got worse...

Numerous treads on here lead me to suspect the Head Gasket being at fault so on to Euro Car Parts I went (I must be a great customer at the Stoke branch). Headgasket set and headbolts ordered which came a few days later. By this time, I was back on the bus for my commute and the car was off the road.

My first day off with some sun, I decided to make a start... Stripped it all down, head off, only to find the head gasket in pristine condition ... What I did find though was a split vacume hose between the inlet manifold and plenum chamber which I replaced. Head gasket was replaced regardless and everything went back together over a few days.

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The first start up was an interesting one. I head read that the hydraulic tappets may be noisy. They were. I ignored this temporarily but it became a concern when they hadn't quietened after a good 20 miles. They wern't just a little noisy. They were pretty loud

The drive home the day after it being back on the road I found myself on the side of the road with a car that would no longer start. The engine span with no compression and I feared the worse, the AA recovery driver said nothing to cheer me up either

Back home and over a few days I stripped it down again to find the cam belt had jumped, knocking the timing out and bending a number of valves

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Back to Euro Car Parts... Second new head set and head bolts and ordered a full set of valves and the various tools needed to replace them. My kitchen table soon became a workshop and over a period of days I replaced the valves and had the car back together. The first start again was a very interesting one... Nothing worked. The car was totally dead... A few checks later and it appeared the battery was totally flat from standing a few days. A quick trip to my local factors and great success The Punto worked, and it worked well! Much hoonage commenced...

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That isn't the end of this unfortunate tale for there was still numerous problems that need my attention. One being a front wishbone which I replaced one morning and another job which I put off for months but plucked up the courage recently to give it a go ... The heater matrix

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Such words send shivers down the spine of many a seasoned mechanic. Possibly the most dreaded job of all In all honesty, it wasn't that bad... Around 6 hours later, it was all back together and back on the road with a non leaking matrix and a heater that worked wonderfully!

So this is my Punto as it stood yesterday morning...

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There are still a few jobs I will be tackling some day, and probably some sooner as the MOT is due in November. 6 months in and I wouldn't wish the joys of Fiat Ownership on anyone but I forgive it for its faults when it gives me 45mpg and a grin every time I bury the go pedal to the floor
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Re: My MK1 Punto Sporting 1.2 16v

Very nice indeed and well done for persevering when others would have chucked in the towel!

The sportings are a nice blend of performance and economy, any more plans for it?
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Even though I'm a Mk2 owner, I actually prefer the shape of the Mk1 -- and, like all Puntos, yours looks absolutely glorious in bright yellow!

You've made this into a fabulous example, already; and I'm terribly impressed at the lengths you've gone to, so far -- especially the heater matrix replacement (...which is the job -- combined with having to replace the whole exhaust -- that finally did for my 1994 Clio, a couple of months, back: it just seemed one time-consuming step too far -- especially for a car worth only a couple of hundred quid)!

I look forward to seeing some more updates and piccies...!

PS: There are some really good photos in there...!
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Good work keeping it on the road, I have a mk1 1.2 85 elx 16v which I hear is the same engine as the sporting. My question for you is how hard is it to replace the cam belt on them because I hear the 16valvers are pigs for it and did you use locking tools or just mark everything up?

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Re: My MK1 Punto Sporting 1.2 16v

i wouldn't say its harder as such, just you need to use a locking tool and be extra vigilant checking everything is done right and tensioned properly as unlike the 8v it is not a non-interference engine.
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Any updates?
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Re: My MK1 Punto Sporting 1.2 16v

Not really... It failed the MOT in November on a few minor bits and emissions. Going by the read out I decided it was down to faulty cat and a slight blow in the backbox. Ordered the parts only for the engine to loose compression across 3 cylinders. Never really looked into why and sold it to a breakers.

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Have to draw the line at some point with old cars. Shame really as I miss it. Was a lovely car to drive and I'm always looking at others Theyre getting very hard to come by these days though...

Drive a Lupo at the moment, which hasn't been without it's faults either but it's a nice place to be, although pretty average to drive.
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Re: My MK1 Punto Sporting 1.2 16v

fair enough, i can understand that but still she was a pretty one
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Re: My MK1 Punto Sporting 1.2 16v

I just wish I had dropped a replacement engine in when I wanted to rather than trying to fix it initially. Probably would still have it now if I did
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Ahh its a shame , you need to get back in to your fiats (Y)
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Re: My MK1 Punto Sporting 1.2 16v

I do!

May is the time to look into it. Insurance is up so ideal time to go for a new motor when starting a new policy.

I have been looking at Coupes but @dave of all people told me it will break every day... He's not wrong, but hardly encouraging

Just a 20v N/a. None of this turbo nonsense
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turbo nonsense??? how dare you lol

Gotta say, to me a coupe without a turbo is like a pie without pastry, just pointless. But each to their own i suppose.
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Re: My MK1 Punto Sporting 1.2 16v

Believe me, I would love a turbo but maintenance and running costs are just too high for me to consider one as a daily. A 20v n/a on the otherhand is quite doable.
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Shame it went, 1.2 16v in a mk1 is my favourite punto all round, remember mine being bags of fun but unfortunately also met an early end.
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Shame it went, 1.2 16v in a mk1 is my favourite punto all round, remember mine being bags of fun but unfortunately also met an early end.
Exactly. What wd a 1368 mk.2 Sporting engine with 6sp box, or Panda 100HP engine, be like in a mk.1 Punto?
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