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Old 04-11-2012   #16
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Its crazy what people do

On my car when i got it someone had cut an old back box up with tin snips and just sat that curved piece ontop of my back box, it wasnt fastened on. My back box didnt even havy any holes or rust ontop. I really didnt understand it, and i felt very lucky it didnt drop off on the motor way into someone else. I found it early on at least.
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Got the Magnex fitted yesterday....what a ball ache that was.

Studs broke off in the down pipe so had to grind captive nuts off and replace...but at least had the foresight to purchase new hanger rubbers, u-bolts and bolts. Seems strange that handbrake cable runs over the middle box but hey ho.....the rear hanger rubber is a nightmare,so little space between bumper and hanger to get the rubber on.Ggrrrrrrrrr.

The magnex sounds a lot quieter....more of a quality sound than quantity from the sportex, has a deeper warble without being intrusive.....and seems to be a tad more responsive with the de-cat. Job well done...
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Another oil and filter change under my belt

BUT a few more issues have raised their head

The exhaust manifold has started blowing when cold .... need to check Eper as found alot more coupe gaskets than hgt, would think same part but need to check. Does anyone know if manifolds prone to cracking or is that just turbo's??? dont want to whip it off without poss sourcing new manifold if i need one, at least i'll change downpipe at same time. Will order new studs and nuts as a precaution.

Seems that the rocker cover gasket is weeping and the alternator housing is cracked...so these all need doing asap.

There's no heat shield on the manifold and no undertray either .....sigh.

I still need to change slam panel so plan was to remove this and radiator and hit all the jobs at once.....giving me the opportunity to hit it with some degreaser at the same time while i have good access.
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Nice to see the renovation is going well.

I see you have a choice of 2 standard Fiat wheels - I would be really interested to see a picture and measurements of your original wheel bolts, and to know if you need new bolts for the coupe wheels...

I'm trying to get new bolts to suit some 90's Brava 14" alloys, but the nearest I've found is these... (or similar).

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/16-WHEEL-B...item3f0e18e492

These are 19mm but most are 17mm with a sort of collar. The older alloys seem to suit 19mm bolts with less of a cone profile, and much more "meat" through the hole - hence needing longer bolts / threads. I'm sure the design should be more like the bolts used for steel wheels, but they changed to a more conical design with 17mm heads when the Mk2 cars came out.

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The HGT's dont need longer studs as they come with alloys from factory, only car that came with steels need longer studs
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Yes but I think they will have come with longer / different bolts than the ones fitted to my later car with later alloys. So I want to know what bolts the earlier cars with earlier alloys came with. And I'd be interested to know if anything extra needed to be done to fit the Coupe alloys mentioned.
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FIAT part number 13228224....fiat alloy wheel nut. Fits hgt,coupe and such like.

Quoted 20 for set of 12 nuts and 4 locking nuts today from local Fiat dealer.

12x1.25mm Thread, Overall bolt lenght 55mm, lenght of bolt to Tapered shoulder 30mm & Uses a 17mm Socket/Wrench.
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Quote Originally Posted by wrightyHGT View Post
FIAT part number 13228224....fiat alloy wheel nut. Fits hgt,coupe and such like.

Quoted 20 for set of 12 nuts and 4 locking nuts today from local Fiat dealer.

12x1.25mm Thread, Overall bolt lenght 55mm, lenght of bolt to Tapered shoulder 30mm & Uses a 17mm Socket/Wrench.
Ive never seen a 17mm head on any of my bolts, all mine have been 19mm original or aftermarket.

This is what I have on my car;
Thread pitch: 12x1.25mm
Thread length: 30mm
Seat type: Taper 60 deg.
Head size: 19mm
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i think Adrian is right, they should be 19mm heads on the wheel nuts, even my aftermarket Abarth nuts are 19mm

blue john the wheels were fitted to my Marea Weekend using the standard nuts 12x1.25 55mm
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Gonna attempt headgasket at home....thinking bout manifold and the welded downpipe.

Had a quick look and only welded at the front.....so thinking the manifold to downpipe join has studs on the manifold end and they've snapped the studs then welded up join......gonna run grinder over weld and seperate them, with regards to the studs can i grind them off and fit bolts instead, or am i really being tight and should fork out 85 for secondhand manifold. Hoped i didn't have too
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Re: Bravo hgt daily driver

Thanks for all the feedback on the wheelbolts... I checked with Fiat and they definitely listed both 19mm and 17mm for the Brava / Bravo, unfortunately at 5 a throw...

I'll probably go for 19mm with length 53mm +, though I'm still not convinced that they are exactly right for OE wheels.
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Ordered new downpipe, relevent gaskets plus manifold and rocker cover gasket. 5ltrs AS G101 degreaser due to arrive so give it a good clean while at it.

Found a s/h alternator for 40 local and ordered new gates belt but need advice from you guys.....

My hgt is not aircon so alt belt short belt but looking at the car need to remove PAS belt to take it off so suppose be best to buy a new belt for that too?? any tensioners that best to replace while at it...

My misses offered to buy me some tools for xmas and was looking at cordless impact wrench's, would the above job be something that i could use it on....and does anyone else use them on regular basis on their cars?
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Never needed impact when working on my 155 marea, been welding it, changed timingbelt+tensioners (new PAS + alt/aircon belt), changed alternator couple times + starter, dropped rear subframe (used 3/4 set with 2m extension + a whole man on it to take the TA nut off, a good 1/2 pneumatic impact had nothing on it) + other small stuff.

Once borrowed a cordless makita impact to take off a towbar at scrappy, but it had no power for the job as it had some rust. A proper pneumatic might have had a chance. Grinder is your friend
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I've got an FC chip btw, thats open to offers! Mike
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Is the magnex available for sale?
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