Seicento Shoebox, 1.2 16v Seicento.

No doubt, i've driven some more powerfull italian metal before (a 155bhp and a 135bhp alfa mito), so i'd drop an abarth SS block in there yesterday if i had the money/skills.

Currently working on getting it running with a slightly beefed up 1108, and if i can get the funds (have to sort out bigger brakes, wheels, suspension as well if i want to get it properly quick), i might attempt an engineswap next winter.

once upon a time i took someone to pick up a turbo cinq, as soon as i had been in one i knew i had to have one lol.

Lol, i've had a short ridealong in a cinq with a 1.2 8v making approx 90hp (bike ITBs, megasquirt, stainless spaghetti manifold), so i know how you feel.

If only the novitec turbo kit was still readily available.. i'd be saving up for it.

i never seen a novitec turbo in the flesh - not sure if i ever seen a UK one online for that matter. (could only be better than Van Aakens attempts really tbf)

I'm positive a 1.4 16v NA would hammer my turbo round a track purely because its a tricky little bugger. Out and out speed, a turbo should win on the extra torque but it would always come down to actual car specs and drivers i reckon - wouldn't be much in it though i don't think.

I just love forced induction, its life enriching stuff!

It's interesting that only with the 1.4 16v cars (and, more recently, Craig's tub) have we seen the suspension, handling, etc. getting the attention it surely needed in the turbo cars. With a flatter torque curve they might just be controllable (and faster).

Just been reading a review of the Ducati Panigale. 195bhp in something like 200kg wet. Top speed somewhere in excess of 190mph. The reviewer says he'd never turn the traction control off with anything less than slicks on the thing....................

Could this thread now be renamed Shoebox, 1.2 16v Seicento, thanks.

Ok car has been back to the exhaust place and got the lamba boss welded in the right place this time, no charge but had to wait around 3 hours.


Also adjusted the handbrake cable, as the adjuster seemed to have shaken itself loose.


Put the lamba probe in the correct hole (post cat) but was still getting a flashing engine light. Which means emission fault. Only happens once i hit the loud pedal over about 3k rpm.

Went to get the codes read, incase they were still causing a fault and causing it to throw up the emission fault.
Same codes as before:
P0300 - Generic Ignition Failure x2.
P0141 - O2 Sensor after cat.
P0340 - Camshaft sensor.
Got them cleared while i was there.

Found this post by Kris and this post by Todger. So I have just disconnected the cam sensor for now. Hopefully that should stop P0300 and P0340.

To try and stop the lamba after cat throwing up a fault, i did as Kris suggested and removed the rear lamba, kept it plugged in and wrapped it in some tin foil and put a spare blanking plug on the lamba boss.
Still no change, even with the rear one removed, if i put my foot down the engine light flashes.
Took out the lambas and swapped for another set ive borrowed off Todger. They came out a lovely dark colour. I knew the car was running rich anyway.
Getting roughly 30-33mpg at the moment.

Engine light has come back on as well now, though i think in part that was my fault when swapping the lambas over i unplugged the speedo sensor and plugged in a lamba sensor instead. So im not surprised


Any ideas or suggestions to sort this out, or is it just the ECU cannot adapt?
As ive said before im already saving up my money and am looking at building a MS system in the summer.
Still tempted by trying to repin an 18FD ECU, cheaper in the short term and i dont mind messing around with the wiring. Just wondering if someone can confirm if it should work (in theory).



Otherwise, the car is good fun and looking alot better, now ive given it a clean.

I know its a bit of a rainbow under the engine bay at the moment, that should be sorted this weekend (hopefully).


Pulled into a car park near a local leisure centre as i thought i heard it misfiring and wanted to check the plugs, also thought id swap the lambas over again and see if it would run any better.
This local car park however is often where all the 17/18 year old scrotes park up. So i roll in and i can hear them saying how crap a little Fiat is.
I parked over the otherside and popped the bonnet to swap the sensors.... That shut them up
As i go to leave a guy in a Golf pulls out behind me.
I can see him 'giving it bigun' to his mates parked up and they all kept looking at me.


Well needless to say, i couldnt help but wipe that smile from his face....
All within the speed limits and the law.... honest officer
Normally im not so childish at all.

Pirus

always fun embarrassing the local chav-racers lol. Can't help you your running issues but car looks great.!

love this thread,such a great read and such a cool car

I thought it would look horrible with the green head, but it actually looks good! So much for colour co-ordination!

Looks great now the conversions been done

and sometimes you just have to show them up.. shouldn't underestimate these cars just in case haha

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Right before i post this next section; please make no assumptions or any opinions on what may or may not have happened.
If you do, i shall ask for this thread to be locked.
I can explain why i have this view if people really want to know.
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No one needs to say anything, trust me.
I'm ok, battered and bruised but will live.
Just glad i didnt have a passenger.
Hit the white line going round a corner, not speeding or driving like a ****. Diesel and grease on the road, felt the back end start coming round. Oppostie lock and dabbed the brake but went up the verge and hit the wet grass. You can see the rest.
No one stopped to help me, one women came out a house nearby and said i was a boy racer. She didnt like my reply....

bastards, even if theres a small shunt i see if everyone is ok

atleast your ok, the car can be replaced

Ash

Sad. Deisel will do that, especially if a damp spell followed by a wet spell lifts it. Glad you're OK.

Sorry to hear about it. got told earlier on in the day.

Glad to hear that your ok though, thats the main thing. Cars can be replaced.

Its disgusting that no one stopped to check that you were ok. and I dont blame you for your reply to the woman.

Its disgraceful people make assumptions like that. and regardless as to if you were or not. They are the worse people for not checking.

Sorry to hear about this can annything be saved from the car ?